I posted the following on the U2U forum yesterday, in response to another user who was claiming that it wasn't possible to use LR6 (i.e. the perpetual license version) without an internet connection:I expected to be able to use LR with no network connection, assuming that rather like CC, it would need to "call home" occasionally so I thought I'd see what happens.
Apparently a network connection is required because without it, LR won't start - in fact it fails rather messily.
As promised, I spoke to Adobe about your issue yesterday, and they suggested trying to run the Adobe Application Manager to see if the 6.0.1 update shows up, and it so run it from there. To launch the application, you may find it under Start>All Programs>Adobe Application Manager (Win) or Applications>Adobe Application Manager (Mac), but if it's not listed there, the full path to the file is as follows:Jim, sorry, sincerely. Nothing wrong about you for sure. I must say I'm really fedup with all this adobe cc shit. adobe is definitely not anymore a company I will look at for products in the future. They just think about money and not at all about users ...
There's a direct download link for the update available here: http://prodesigntools.com/adobe-lightroom-6-cc-direct-download-links.html#more-61627Why the hell can't they just post a download link ? All was perfect for previous LR versions !! They are just killing a great product ...
I must say I sympathise somewhat with your sentiment. I have been a C1 user as well as LR for a long time and I'm testing the v8 trial now. I had a bumpy start with LR6 but have managed, with the invaluable help of the gurus on this forum, to get stabilised and working OK in standalone mode. However Adobe seem so set on shunting users to this cloud thing that I wonder whether this sop to stand-aloners will be the last; whether they will bother at the next upgrade. One thing that is making me hesitate is the lack of export plugins for C1 but I'm investigating that now.Adobe wins, turning myself toward CaptureOne Pro. Will test it. And was a Lightroom lover and defender since v1 ! Bravo Adobe !
The only observation that I have to make about C1 is that they were far behind Adobe and even Apple in getting RAW file updates out for newly introduced cameras. This might not be a problem if you don't buy a new camera, but a PIA when you do.I must say I sympathise somewhat with your sentiment. I have been a C1 user as well as LR for a long time and I'm testing the v8 trial now. I had a bumpy start with LR6 but have managed, with the invaluable help of the gurus on this forum, to get stabilised and working OK in standalone mode. However Adobe seem so set on shunting users to this cloud thing that I wonder whether this sop to stand-aloners will be the last; whether they will bother at the next upgrade. One thing that is making me hesitate is the lack of export plugins for C1 but I'm investigating that now.
Hi Cletus, thanks for the welcome.Smidgely, Welcome to the forum. I don't have a Windows Perpetual 6.0 license to test. But I can verify that the LRCC2015.0.1 version does indeed work without an internet connection. Yesterday Adobe release a patch to LR6.0.1. It addresses some startup issues. If you haven't installed the patch, you should/ It may resolve this issue.
I couldn't find anything on Windows' program menus relating to an app manager, although I believe it was running when the update to 6.0.1 was announced automatically - IIRC that was responsible on the 5.x releases for automatically detecting and announcing the availability of upgrades.Does LR6 require the Adobe App Manager to be running as a background task while LR6 standalone is running? If it does, then running the App manager even without an internet connection could be all you need to run LR6 too.
Yes, I agree with this - it does seem to be a one-off event and while I wasn't running LR6 for hours after successfully signing on, I did remove the network connection once I'd verified I was logged on and then ran it for 20 minutes or so with no issues; the Help menu still showed me as logged on.I posted the following on the U2U forum yesterday, in response to another user who was claiming that it wasn't possible to use LR6 (i.e. the perpetual license version) without an internet connection:
"Staying signed-in and staying connected to the internet appear to be two different things as far as standalone LR6 is concerned. From my limited testing, provided you have remained signed-in (and thus activated), you can go offline for as long as you like and continue to use your purchased product. Lightroom and/or the CC app will locally still have you recorded as "signed in", so it will continue to function."
Agreed again, although I read this more as a "should be" than an "as running" description, because LR is clearly insisting on calling home every time it's started."Also from my limited testing, there is no prescribed "call home" interval (unlike the CC version), so I think in theory you can carry on using the product even if you never ever reconnect to the internet. Problems would only arise should you need to reactivate for any reason (system rebuild, for example), in which case you would find it easier to go online (though I believe there is still an offline activation protocol)."
Yes, when LR is started with a net connection the Help menu shows me as signed-in and good to go.Of course, that doesn't explain your issue, other that to say that you should be able to run while disconnected, so we need to figure out why yours isn't. For a start, before you disconnect, are you still signed-in (Help menu)....because you need to be to retain the "activated" status. Assuming you are, have you rebooted with your internet connection removed? Not sure why that should be needed, but for diagnostic purposes it's better to ensure you are disconnected when the system boots up. Then do you still get the same hang when you try to start Lightroom?
I am running 5.7 as 6.0 will not run. It still hangs up when the "splash" page opens and goes no where. I really have no choice but to continue with 5.7 until this startup problem with 6.0 is resolved.So what version are you actually running? 5.7 or 6?