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What’s New in Lightroom Classic 13.0, Mobile & Desktop (October 2023)? *** Updated with 13.0.1 & 13.0.2 ***

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Lightroom Classic 13.0, Lightroom Desktop 7.0, and Lightroom Mobile 9.0 have all been released today. As Lightroom is subscription software, this isn’t a “big release” in the conventional sense. Adobe tends to update the main version number annually around the time of Adobe Max, and this year is no exception. Of course, new features have been released every few months, rather than having to wait for a single x.0 release.

Note: See New bugs (below) for notes on 13.0.1 and 13.0.2.

In the last year, we’ve had (only main points listed):

Lightroom Classic:

  • 12.1 (December 2022) – Masking slider and panel updates, Canon native tethering.
  • 12.2 (February 2023) – Additional Keyword export and Map options.
  • 12.3 (April 2023) – AI Noise Reduction (Denoise) arrives! Plus, Masking includes Tone Curve and additional Edit In…Photoshop options. Also, it became easier to switch on/off panel effects.
  • 12.4 (June 2023) – Process Version 6 arrived, Grain came to Masking, Book module gained added alignment buttons (plus other small enhancements).
  • 12.5 (August 2023) – Lots of bug fixes.
  • Numerous mobile and Lightroom Cloud-based improvements, as well as smaller features.

Lightroom Mobile & Desktop:

  • December 2022
    • Mobile – iOS16 Camera Widget (iOS), Borders on Export (iOS)
    • Desktop – Camera Calibration panel added, Masking sliders grouped into panels.
    • All versions – 4 new sets of Adobe’s Premium presets added called “Seasons”.
  • February 2023
    • iOS – Video & Healing enhancements.
    • Android – Adaptive presets that use People Masks, and Healing enhancements.
  • April 2023
    • Desktop – AI Denoise arrived! Also, Tone Curve was added to Masking sliders, Video enhancement (trim tool), and Content Authenticity Initiative was added.
    • All versions – 3 new Premium presets have been added to the Adaptive: Portrait group.
  • June 2023
    • Mobile – new User Interface, giving a Device Tab to allow the use of the device’s own photo management app (Photos app/Gallery app).
    • Android – Early Access to new Edit view.
    • Desktop – new Refine Saturation slider under the RGB point curve and Grain became available as a Masking adjustment.
  • August 2023
    • Primarily bug fixes on Desktop.

 

As many Develop/Edit features apply to all of the different app versions, we’ve merged all of the updates into a single post, so here’s a quick reminder of what the different app versions are officially called…

 

New bugs…

 

System Requirements

The minimum system requirements for Lightroom Classic 13.0 and Lightroom Desktop 7.0 have been updated:

  • Windows 10 v22H2 or later, or Windows 11 v21H2 or later.
  • macOS now requires macOS 12 (Monterey) or later.
  • Lightroom Classic 13.0 and Lightroom Desktop 7.0 are now supported on macOS 14 (Sonoma) – but check our blog for further details.

 

Classic & Desktop – Point Color

In the Color Mixer panel (previously called the HSL/color panel in Classic), there is a new tool – Point Color. Whereas HSL/Color selects a wide hue range regardless of its saturation or luminance, Point Color allows you to pinpoint the exact color you want to adjust. For example, HSL/Color can adjust a general skin tone range, but Point Color allows you to make different adjustments to light skin tones and dark skin tones. Unlike HSL, adjustments are cumulative, allowing for precise adjustments to a photo.

The panel does look extremely complicated, but there are full step-by-step instructions in our Lightroom Classic FAQ and Lightroom Edit on the Go books.

 

 

Classic, Desktop & Mobile – Lens Blur

Lens Blur uses AI to simulate shallow Depth of Field. Some mobile devices use multiple lenses to create this kind of depth map at the time of capture, like the iPhone in Portrait mode, so Depth Range Masking and Lens Blur make good use of this technology. If a depth map isn’t available, however, Lightroom’s Lens Blur tool uses AI to try to estimate the distances.

The amount of blur can be adjusted, as can the style of bokeh in highlights in the background, which isn’t currently possible when using Masking to blur a background. Focal Range can also be adjusted to determine what’s in focus.

You’ll notice that the panel has an Early Access badge. This means Adobe is still working on it, but they want to get feedback from the community on a broader range of photos. It’s a new technology, so it will develop over time, but it already works well on some types of photos.

 

Classic, Desktop & Mobile – HDR Editing

Until now, even HDR (High Dynamic Range) photos have had to be compressed into a standard dynamic range that can be displayed on most screens. However, with the introduction of much brighter displays, it’s now possible to display a much wider dynamic range. HDR technology has been used in movies for a few years, but it’s early days for HDR image editing.

For displays that support HDR, the additional range can be used to give photos a real ‘pop’. Adobe describes photos edited for HDR displays as having “increased depth and realism with brighter highlights, deeper shadows, improved tonal separation, and more vivid colors.” Who can explain it better than the Lead Engineer who designed it? Here’s a link to Eric Chan’s HDR blog post.

While you can apply HDR editing to any photo, it works best on files that have a wider dynamic range, such as:

  • Raw files from cameras and mobile devices, including Apple ProRAW, Google Pixel DNG files, and DNGs from Lightroom mobile’s camera.
  • Photos merged to HDR using Lightroom Classic or Lightroom mobile’s camera app.
  • HEIF photos captured by Apple iPhone, Canon, Nikon, and Sony cameras.

The Histogram and Tone Curve displays are extended to show the additional range.

An HDR photo may appear dull on an SDR (Standard Dynamic Range) display unless adjusted for both, so there are additional sliders to create an SDR rendition so the photo looks great on all types of display.

To view photos in HDR, you need a supported GPU and an HDR-capable display, ideally 1000 nits or brighter. Technically, you can still use the HDR sliders on a lower-specification device, but you don’t see the benefit.

On Windows, you need a supported GPU, and Adobe recommends a VESA Certified Display HDR level 1000 or higher. You also need to enable HDR in Windows Settings.

On macOS, you need an XDR display, available on a MacBook Pro 14” or 16” (2021 or later) or the separate Pro Display XDR.

HDR is also supported in Lightroom Mobile on iPhone, iPad, and Google Pixel 7 Pro (running Android 14), so you can see your photos in their full glory on your mobile devices. They are also supported in Lightroom Web when viewed using Chrome on an HDR desktop display (not mobile).

This is still relatively early days for this technology, so web browser and social media support should improve over the coming months and years.

 

Desktop – Local file browsing

The Device (iOS) / Gallery (Android) tab has been in the mobile apps for a few months now, allowing you to browse photos stored in the Photos app (iOS) / Gallery app (Android) and only add specific photos to Lightroom’s cloud library. Now, it’s possible on the desktop app, too!

At the top of the Photos panel, there are buttons to switch between the existing Cloud library and the new Local browsing mode. Underneath are all your local hard drives, just like any normal file browser, and you can mark specific folders as favorites for easy access.

Viewing and editing photos is the same as Cloud photos, with a few exceptions:

  • Edits are stored as XMP in the file headers for most file types or as .xmp sidecar files for proprietary raw files.
  • Features that rely on a catalog are unavailable. This includes albums, stacks, versions, browsing by date, and searching all photos.
  • Features that rely on the cloud are unavailable for local photos (unless you copy the photos to the cloud). This includes AI-based search, people tags, cloud backup, multi-device access, and web gallery sharing.

Before anyone asks, no, this is not an attempt to kill off Lightroom Classic! The new Local view is a lightweight file browser, more like a simplified Adobe Bridge / Camera Raw combination. Lightroom Classic uses a catalog, so you can search all of your photos in one go or browse them offline, whereas this is like browsing photos in Explorer (Windows) / Finder (Mac) and opening them into editing software. So who is it designed for?

  • Lightroom Cloud Ecosystem users who want to keep some of their photos in the cloud and others offline and edit them wherever they’re stored. People have been asking for selective sync for years! For example, you might only keep the best and current working photos in cloud storage and the rest on your desktop hard drive.
  • Lightroom Cloud Ecosystem users who want to browse and cull their latest photos before adding the keepers to the cloud rather than uploading everything.
  • Photographers who don’t want the complexity of Lightroom Classic but need to store their files locally. No more missing photos! (This includes people who previously used Lightroom Desktop with sync paused.)
  • Bridge/Camera Raw users who would prefer to edit photos without having to open into a separate window.

 

iPhone/Android – New Edit UI

The new Edit view, which has been a Tech Preview for a few months, is now enabled for everyone automatically. Tapping the buttons in the bottom row (Presets, Crop, Sliders, Masking & Healing) displays the second row of panel buttons in Slider mode or the tool options for Presets, Crop, Masking, or Healing. To access stars, flags, and other metadata, tap the … button and select Info & Rating view.

 

Classic & Desktop – DNG Compression

When converting a raw file to a lossy DNG, Lightroom now uses JPEG XL compression rather than JPEG. This is a little slower, but the quality is just as good, and the space savings are huge. This also affects files produced by the Enhance tool (Classic & Desktop), as well Merge to HDR and Panorama (Classic only… Desktop to follow), resulting in much smaller file sizes.

 

Other New Features

  • Classic – Preset Filters
    • Like the Folder and Collection panels, there’s now a search field at the top of the Presets panel. This enables you to search for a preset or preset group by name (or part of the name), which comes in handy if you have thousands of presets or they’re not well organized.
  • Classic – HSL/Color panel Renamed
    • The HSL/Color panel has been renamed to Color Mixer, and the HSL/Color controls moved to the new Mixer tab to make space for the Point Color tool.
  • Classic – Hover Preview for History & Snapshots
    • Just like when you hover over Presets and see the results in the Preview area, this is also true if you hover over a History step or a Snapshot.
  • Classic – Filter & Smart Collection Criteria
    • There are new criteria available in both the Metadata Filter columns and in Smart Collections: HDR Edit Mode on or off.
  • Classic – Performance
    • There have been a number of performance enhancements in this release. They include:
    • Switching between images in Develop module.
    • Faster read/write times when updating metadata in XMP.
    • If Automatically write to XMP is enabled in Catalog Settings, Lightroom now only writes the changes to XMP when you move to a different photo, switch to another module, switch to another app, or quit Lightroom.
    • Improvements when moving photos to another drive.
    • Improvements when converting files to standard DNG format (not lossy).
  • Desktop, Mobile & Web – Discover rebranded as Community
    • The Discover tutorials have been renamed to Community tutorials on all devices.
  • Desktop – Filter by Likes & Comments
    • When viewing a shared album, likes and comments are available in the Refine filter bar. At last! (No progress for Lightroom Classic on this, though, sorry!)
  • Mobile – Multi-select in Device/Gallery Grid view
    • Hold your finger on a thumbnail to select multiple photos to add to Lightroom’s library or delete from the device.
  • iPhone/Android & Web – Geometry moved to the Crop tool
  • Web – Healing Improvements
    • There’s a newer Content-Aware Remove algorithm in the Healing tool, which is a great improvement over those found in the apps. It’s Early Access at the moment, but the results do sync to the desktop/mobile apps, so if it’s not healing well in the apps, try it on the web.

 

New camera support:

  • Apple
    • Apple iPhone 15 Front Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Plus Front Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Plus Ultrawide Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Plus Wide Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Front Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max Front Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max Telephoto Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max Ultrawide Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max Wide Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Telephoto Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Ultrawide Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Wide Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Ultrawide Camera
    • Apple iPhone 15 Wide Camera
  • Olympus/OM System
    • OM Digital Solutions OM SYSTEM TG 7
  • Panasonic
    • Panasonic LUMIX DCG9M2
  • Sony
    • Sony A7C II (ILCE7CM2)
    • Sony A7CR (ILCE7CR)
  • Click to view the full list of supported cameras

 

New lens profiles:

  • Apple
    • Apple iPhone 15 front camera 2.69mm f/1.9
    • Apple iPhone 15 back camera 1.54mm f/2.4
    • Apple iPhone 15 back camera 5.96mm f/1.6
    • Apple iPhone 15 Plus front camera 2.69mm f/1.9
    • Apple iPhone 15 Plus back camera 1.54mm f/2.4
    • Apple iPhone 15 Plus back camera 5.96mm f/1.6
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro front camera 2.69mm f/1.9
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro back camera 9mm f/2.8
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro back camera 2.22mm f/2.2
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro back camera 6.86mm f/1.78
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max front camera 2.69mm f/1.9
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max back camera 15.66mm f/2.8
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max back camera 2.22mm f/2.2
    • Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max back camera 6.86mm f/1.78
  • Hasselblad XCD
    • Hasselblad Model XCD 4/28 P
    • Hasselblad XCD 2,5/55V
    • Hasselblad XCD 2,5/90V
  • Sony E
    • Viltrox AF 75mm F1.2 E
  • Sony FE
    • Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM II
  •  Xiaomi
    • Xiaomi MIX Fold 3 Front Camera
    • Xiaomi MIX Fold 3 Rear Super Telephoto Camera
    • Xiaomi MIX Fold 3 Rear Telephoto Camera
    • Xiaomi MIX Fold 3 Rear Ultrawide Camera
    • Xiaomi MIX Fold 3 Rear Wide Camera
  • Click here for the full list of available Adobe Lens Profiles

New tether support (Classic only)

  • Nikon Z8

 

Bug fixes:

This is a major update so lots of work was put into the new features, but it did also include bug fixes. Adobe only publishes the ones that were reported by users.

If you find a bug, click here to learn how to report it to Adobe.

How do I update?

To update on the desktop, go to Help menu > Updates or click the Update button in the CC app. The update servers take a while to push the updates around the world to avoid overloading the servers. You can also open the Creative Cloud app, click the … icon (top right), and select Check for Updates to give it a nudge. To update on mobile, visit the App Store (iOS) / Play Store (Android).

For Lightroom Classic, this release upgrades your catalog format, so just be aware that you can’t easily roll back to 12.5. You may decide to hold off updating to 13.0 until more general feedback is received. If your CC App already updated Lightroom Classic to 13.0 automatically, here are the details on rolling the version back.

If you previously had -v12 in the name, you’ll see it’s intelligent enough to replace this with -v13.  You may decide to change the name to not have the version number in it, or change it altogether! Our example uses the Catalog Name ‘Personal’. The Upgraded Catalog name and path to it is displayed under the editable name.

For more details on catalog upgrades, see our blog post Why is Lightroom asking to upgrade my catalog and what does it do?

 

Are the books updated?

The eBooks for Adobe Lightroom Classic – The Missing FAQ have the updates in the Appendix as usual… a whopping 16 pages of updates for all the new features in this release!

Adobe Lightroom – Edit Like a Pro has been rebranded Adobe Lightroom – Edit on the Go. It’s been 5 years since the first edition of our book Edit Like a Pro, covering the whole Adobe Cloud ecosystem, was released, so it was time for a significant rewrite! In that time, we’ve learned a lot about how different devices are used in people’s workflows. Since mobile apps are the most popular in the cloud ecosystem, and many Lightroom Classic users also use Lightroom Mobile, we’ve shifted the book’s focus: the mobile instructions are now listed first, followed by the desktop instructions. Of course, our focus on editing hasn’t changed. When the book was first released, the editing tools were limited to the basics, but now, all of the advanced editing tools are available. The updated paperback will be going to press shortly.

The eBooks can be downloaded immediately after purchase. If you already have a current Premium Membership, your updated eBooks are available for download in your Members Area.

Comments

  1. PatrickCooney says

    Since I upgraded to LRC 13, and now 13.01, I’ve been having repeated crashes where LRC just stops responding to clicks and keyboarding, I am running LRC on a HP PC with Windows 11, 16GB, 500 TB internal drive with LRC and the catalog, 5 TB external drive with photos, all updated as updates arrive.
    Mostly I just go to the Task Manger and close LRC, then relaunch it and continue my work until the next crash. Sometime Adobe’s error reporting app pops up and says that it needs to close LRC. On these occasions, I opt to send them the crash dump and I tell them whatever I was doing, which was never anything esoteric. I see no one else reporting this behavior here. Any suggestions?

    Reply

    • Victoria Bampton says

      Is your Adobe ID the same email address you used when posting here Patrick? If so, is it ok if I ask an Adobe staff member to check it against the crash reports to see if it’s a known issue?

      Reply

  2. ss6rmaud56 says

    I defined several mask presets early in LrC 12, primarily settings for Clarity and Saturation and combinations of the two. After upgrading to LrC 13.0.1 last week, I noticed something that seems strange. While the history for images where I used one of those presets shortly before upgrading, the history panel shows something like “Mask1: Update Refine Saturation Adjustment” (which make sense, but isn’t as clear as using the name of the preset like “Mask1: Clarity +50” or “Mask1: Clarity +50 Saturation +50” would be IMO), but if I apply any of these presets now (after upgrading to LrC 13.0.1), the history panel shows “Mask1: Update Point Colors” which seems completely wrong, since I have never used the new point color either globally or in a Mask. Is this a bug?

    Reply

  3. DShipp says

    Tethered capture using Canon 5ds & Mac broken in version 13.0.01 – not recognising camera at all. Rolling back to 12.5

    Reply

  4. Paul Nurnberg says

    I think I know the answer to this but have not been able to test yet. If I make a catalog in Lightroom Classic 13…on one computer, I assume I would not be able import as a catalog to an older version of LR. is that a correct assumption?

    Reply

  5. Alan says

    Hi all,

    Thanks for your extensive information, much appreciated.

    I’m on Sonoma with a Mac mini M2 Pro & LR 13.0.1. All good so far. Only one thing – & don’t know if this is a Sonoma or LR thing – I’m using an Eizo CS2740 which is definitely a 4K HDR wide gamut monitor yet LR doesn’t recognise it as so. LR shows me a red line underneath the HDR part of the histogram with a red “i” warning saying “HDR display is currently unavailable… .

    I’ve read that HDR monitors must be 600-1000 nits for LR to recognise them as HDR. My monitor has a 1000:1 typical contrast & up to 350 cd/m² brightness. I’m using it on a resolution of 2560×1440 (not its native resolution 3840×2160). LR seems to mainly recognise the new Apple displays. Yet on my screen I can see the differences between SDR & HDR. I’m just not certain if they are accurate differences. Am I missing something or will LR open this feature out to support all HDR monitors?

    Cheers!

    Reply

    • Victoria Bampton says

      Hi Alan. cd/m2 is the same as nits, so your monitor maxes out at about 350 nits. Lovely monitor; it just wouldn’t be considered HDR. Don’t suppose you have a recent iPhone or iPad in your tech collection? If so, try one of the photos in HDR in LR Mobile and compare it with the same photo on your desktop, and you’ll be able to see the kind of difference that the extra highlight headroom creates.

      On your SDR screen, the difference you’re seeing is the raw data being expanded up to a much wider HDR range and then compressed back down to fit in an SDR range. It often looks worse than raw data straight to SDR.

      Reply

      • Alan says

        Hi Victoria,

        Thanks much for your thoughts. I had a feeling! Yes it’s a cracker of a monitor but I was convinced it was an HDR monitor based on Eizo info, such as this, if you’re interested:

        https://www.eizocolour.com/products/coloredge-cs/cs2740/

        On that page, look under heading 4K UHD where it says “A true HDR experience..”! Misleading information—to me anyway.

        Eizo provides, if you ask for it, HLG & PQ profiles or targets for this monitor, adding:

        “NOTE for macOS

        Basically, this HDR upgrade of CS2740 is a setting for displaying HDR images and is not intended for desktop display. Therefore, desktop application of macOS could not display colors correctly when you use the gamma (EOTF) with soft/hard clip. To display the desktop on macOS, please change the color mode to User, BT.2020,
        BT.709 or DCI-P3.”

        Do you think these profiles might show me that extra HDR headroom you speak of, given that they are an emulation?

        Also, I do have an iPhone 13 mini – is it recent enough?

        Thanks again for your wonderful site.

        Cheers!

        Reply

        • Victoria Bampton says

          Hmmm. I don’t know, I think you might need to ask EIZO about that. SDR is apparently usually 100-300 cd/m2 or nits, so 350 is technically over that.

          Google says the iPhone 13 mini is 800 nits, so you should definitely be able to see it there, and that’ll give you a clearer idea of what kind of difference you’re looking for.

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  6. David Lejcek says

    I really like the new features but I experience problem viewing photos in develop module. If I use arrow left or right and want to jump to next or previous photo it sometimes does not jump to it and the previous photo is still displayed even when the next photo is market in the bottom panel.

    I just want edit photos one by one but if want to skip to another photo then it’s still displayed the current photo.

    I tried to reinstall my graphics card drivers (intel arc a370m), tried to update the latest version of Lightroom but this problem still occurs.

    Should I completele reinstall Lightroom?

    Thank you.

    (I am on windows 11)

    Reply

  7. Jonathan Pye says

    It seems I lost a whole lot of availible searches since updating? I for examle use dxo photolab for denoising and I usually search my batch of photos for “high ISO” to choose which photos go to denoising. It seems I cannot anymore? Or am I missing something?

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  8. thommy says

    In previous version it was possible to display true RGB values from 0-255 (not percentage from 0-100%) in the Develop Module when Soft Proofing was enabled.
    Has this feature/option been removed in this new version?

    Reply

  9. Howard Routledge says

    Updated to 13.0.1 and the ‘Auto’ settings adjustment function has disappeared. Is it possible to get it back? I acknowledge that I can still access the Auto Settings adjustment via Clrl U.

    Reply

  10. dlhess-outlook says

    Hi Victoria – do you reckon it’s relatively safe to accept the LrC update (currently running LrC on Windows/PC) or would you suggest waiting a bit longer? r/Dennis Hess

    Reply

    • Victoria Bampton says

      Windows is looking pretty good… so long as you’re not on a deadline and have time to roll back if you do hit any issues.

      Reply

  12. rosewardsx says

    It took me a while to take in all the changes and new features but thank you so much Victoria for explaining it all.

    I am really interested in the new Local Files feature of the Lightroom Cloud desktop though. I love using the cloud version as it is nice, simple and I can use it on different Macs around the house (my studio gets too cold in the winter). The problem was that I have a huge number of old film photos scanned to TIFF so things like retouching and dust removal can be done … now I could manage these with Bridge then edit in Lightroom and move the finished JPG into the cloud.

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  13. edwarddebruyn says

    Had problems with LR running very slow in develop mode for viewing large dng pictures (pano A7r5 files). Was slow at 100% viewing (20-30sec) and very slow when viewing lower magnifications (more than 5 minutes…) . On a Macbook Air 16Gb ram.

    Is solved with the upgrade to LR 13.0.1, the images are shown instantly now.

    Friendly greetings

    Reply

  14. James Burkstrand says

    Great Summary. Still not sure of usefulness of new “HDR” in Classic, whether I would use it outside my own office, how my family & friends will see it, etc.

    Reply

    • Victoria Bampton says

      I suspect it’ll become a lot more useful as the rest of the world catches up with the technology. With Adobe making it available for everyone, other software has more incentive to move forward quickly now.

      Reply

  17. edwarddebruyn says

    Hi…bug for showing big dng files. I’m actually making a lot of panorama for landscape photography. Sometimes I’m using LR to render my pano’s from my A7r5 pictures files and render them to dng’s (pano’s).
    LR sems to have quit some problems to display these dng pano’s. Takes forever…
    Exported these pano’s to tiff files and they are shown in “fit on screen”, 50 or 100% without any problem, just like before.
    Moved back to 12.5 and no problem there. Moved back to 13 and problem returned…thinking of going back to 12.5 again…

    Working on a MacBook Air 16 GB ram.
    Thank you for the info

    Reply

    • Rikk Flohr says

      A few questions for you @edwarddebruyn:

      When are you seeing this long delay?

      In the Pano Preview in the Merge Dialog?
      or
      The first render in Library after Merge?
      or
      The first render in Develop after Merge?
      or
      Anytime after the initial merge?

      What are the dimensions in pixels of the final merge?

      I suspect it has to do with the longer time it takes to render the DNG in JXL than in the previous method (12.5) which is to be expected.

      It would also be handy to know how long it takes the same files in 12.5 vs 13.0.

      Reply

      • edwarddebruyn says

        Yes thank you for your quick response Rikk.

        Image size: 22345 x 6302 px panorama file

        For LR 12.5 in develop mode the images are shown instantly (dng & tiff)

        For LR 13

        In develop mode

        1. When I want to see the original dng or a virtual copy at 100% view it takes about 20 sec before showing me the full resolution image.

        2. When I do the same in full screen mode with or without my toolbar on the right side (resp 8.8% and 12.2%)….lost my patience after 3-4 minutes…nada

        3. When I go to the tiff file with the same resolution the image is displayed immediately in 100%, 8.8 or 12,2% view

        In the library mode everything is normal

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  20. Zenon says

    I don’t see any speed improvements for Denoise AI on my iMac Intel or MacBook Air M1. The resulting DNG’s are about 3rd of the size so that is big welcome improvement.

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  21. Doug Stead says

    As always thanks for the highlights of new and improvements coming to our LR Comunity. Also nice to see Laura Shoe adding her sage question!. ????

    Reply

  22. JML says

    Thanks for the news, as always! So, how does one choose between lossless and lossy DNG compression? I usually don’t like lossy, as it does degrade the image, especially on consecutive edits.

    Reply

    • Victoria Bampton says

      When converting to DNG, import stage is always lossless. You can select lossy compression when converting to DNG from the menu command or during export.

      The Merge/Enhance files always use compression and always have done, it’s just better now. It’s not like saving a lossy jpeg over and over again because it’s only being compressed once and however hard I’ve tried, I’ve never been able to find any quality deterioration from it, so I can see why the engineers made that choice.

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      • Alan Hunt says

        Thanks for the clear explanation. I do have an additional question. In the Filter Bar if I filter for either Enhanced or HDR in filename and filter Metadata for File Type, all Merge to HDR images from before LR 13 have “Digital Negative / Lossless” as the file type. Merge to HDR images from after LR 13 have “Digital Negative / Lossy Compressed”. All Enhanced images, both before and after, have “Digital Negative / Lossless” as the file type. It’s not super important, but it doesn’t make sense to me. Hopefully you can make sense out of that for me.
        Thanks

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          • Alan Hunt says

            I had seen that part of the blog article. It and Victoria’s response above prompted my question. I definitely see the difference in file size. But when I create a smart collection to show images with lossy DNG or filter for them, they don’t appear. They appear as lossless DNGs. It could just be a bug – or something beyond my understanding.

  23. Laura Shoe says

    Great summary as always, Victoria. I haven’t been following this update as I usually do so I’m wondering: why doesn’t the standard Convert to DNG file size decline with JPEG XL compared to JPEG?

    Reply

    • Victoria Bampton says

      I believe Apple has fixed that specific issue but some related issues were found, so Lightroom isn’t using the neutral engine for Denoise yet.

      Reply

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You’ll learn not only how to get started, but more importantly, how to avoid the most frequent problems. There are Quick Start eBooks for both the traditional desktop-based Lightroom Classic, and for the new Lightroom cloud ecosystem.

The eBooks are yours to download absolutely FREE, along with a number of other free member benefits, when you register for a free account. Don’t worry, we won’t share your email address with anyone else, and there’s no obligation to buy anything.

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