CC App Which Grafics Card?

[Califdan]

Lightroom Version Number

14.0.1

Operating System

1. Windows 10
2. Windows 11

Well, it seems that the time has come to bite the bullet and upgrade my 3 computers to Windows/11 before Windows/10 goes off support in October. Unfortunatly, none of my 3 computers' CPU seems to meet the requirements for Windows/11 (at least according to the MS PC Health app) and the newest one is only 8 years old. So, off to the Dell store ahead of Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

The first computer I'm looking to replace is my desktop and have the following choices for Grafics cards.

Does the "super" version of the 4070 do much? What about the 480 vs 470?

Thanks -- Dan

 

[Califdan]

Anybody have any insights on the value of the "SUPER" versions or the 4080 vs the 4070?

 

[Replytoken]

I did a bit of research on the different models when I started looking for my replacement PC, but had to put it on hold for a bit. There are differences, but I cannot recall what site I used to learn about the difference and their impact on performance. I did find this in my browser history FWIW: https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/nvidia...review-benchmarks-vs-rtx-4070-rx-7800-xt-more . My take was mostly driven by my budget, but I know that I would wanted at least 12GB of RAM, which all of your models have. I think that the sweet spot for value is probably either the 4070 Super or the 4070 Ti Super. Given that the upcharge for moving from a 4070 to a 4070 Super is not that much, I would probably rule it out, but again, some reviews would probably put some performance to the upcharges. Let us know what you select.

--Ken

 

[Califdan]

I did a bit of research on the different models

Thanks for the info. Right now I'm leaning toward the 4070 Super for an extra $150 but still have an eye on the 470Ti Super for another $50 over the non Ti Super version. Although the 4080 probably offers a modicum of better preformance it seems to be more of an implact for gammer's (at least that's how I interpret things I've read) so is probably not worth the extra $500..

Anyone have insights on the Super vs. the Ti Super?

 

[Califdan]

Here's what Google Gemini (Google's AI Chatbot) has to say on the subject. I don't know if it's good advice but I am blown away by this AI Chatbot technology.


(QUESTION) Trying to decide between an Nvidia GTX 4070 Super and Nvidia GTX 4070Ti Super for use with Lightroom Classic

For Lightroom Classic, the RTX 4070 Super is a great choice. It offers excellent performance for photo editing tasks, including AI-accelerated features. While the RTX 4070 Ti Super is more powerful, the additional performance may not be necessary for most Lightroom users.
Here's a breakdown of why the 4070 Super is a good choice:

• Strong performance: It can handle demanding photo editing tasks, including large image files and complex edits.
• AI acceleration: It's well-suited for AI-powered features in Lightroom Classic, such as object removal, noise reduction, and color grading.
• Good value: It offers a great balance of performance and price.

While the 4070 Ti Super is more powerful, it's also significantly more expensive. The extra performance may not be noticeable in everyday Lightroom use.
Ultimately, the best choice for you will depend on your specific needs and budget. If you're a professional photographer who frequently works with large image files and complex edits, the 4070 Ti Super may be worth the extra cost. However, for most users, the 4070 Super is a great choice.
Additional considerations:

• Future-proofing: If you plan to upgrade your system in the future, the 4070 Ti Super may be a better investment.
• Other software: If you use other demanding software, such as video editing or 3D rendering, the 4070 Ti Super may be a better choice.

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

 

[Replytoken]

Here's what Google Gemini (Google's AI Chatbot) has to say on the subject. I don't know if it's good advice but I am blown away by this AI Chatbot technology.


(QUESTION) Trying to decide between an Nvidia GTX 4070 Super and Nvidia GTX 4070Ti Super for use with Lightroom Classic

For Lightroom Classic, the RTX 4070 Super is a great choice. It offers excellent performance for photo editing tasks, including AI-accelerated features. While the RTX 4070 Ti Super is more powerful, the additional performance may not be necessary for most Lightroom users.
Here's a breakdown of why the 4070 Super is a good choice:

• Strong performance: It can handle demanding photo editing tasks, including large image files and complex edits.
• AI acceleration: It's well-suited for AI-powered features in Lightroom Classic, such as object removal, noise reduction, and color grading.
• Good value: It offers a great balance of performance and price.

While the 4070 Ti Super is more powerful, it's also significantly more expensive. The extra performance may not be noticeable in everyday Lightroom use.
Ultimately, the best choice for you will depend on your specific needs and budget. If you're a professional photographer who frequently works with large image files and complex edits, the 4070 Ti Super may be worth the extra cost. However, for most users, the 4070 Super is a great choice.
Additional considerations:

• Future-proofing: If you plan to upgrade your system in the future, the 4070 Ti Super may be a better investment.
• Other software: If you use other demanding software, such as video editing or 3D rendering, the 4070 Ti Super may be a better choice.

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

The only thing is that the difference in price difference is now down to $50, and you also get $GB of additional RAM included for the upgrade. I would be tempted for that difference, but that is me.

--Ken

 

[Califdan]

The only thing is that the difference in price difference is now down to $50, and you also get 4GB of additional RAM included for the upgrade. I would be tempted for that difference, but that is me.

Good Point.

 

[PhilBurton]

My assumption is that you will keep your new systems for at least 3 years, perhaps 5 or more. I am also assuming that GPU memory will only become more important just for Lightroom Classic within that timeframe. Thus I would choose the 40470 Ti Super16 GB. However .....

However, if you can wait a few months, NVidia is expected to release its next generation 5000 series cards, with better performance at about the same power consumption as the models they replace.

 

[Califdan]

Thanks Phil.

waiting is certainly an option but I have to replace 3 Windows systems before Windows/10 goes off suppoert in October and figure that Black Friday is the best bet for saving some bucks.

 

[BobT]

They are all quite capable. Much of LrC's processing is done by the CPU. Firstly, the fastest CPU and the most RAM will give the greatest benefit. However, for AI Denoise and whatever AI driven features are yet to come, it's about the number of "tensor cores" in the GPU. Check the specs. The "Super" and the "Ti", I suspect are over clocked versions of the standard. Over clocking is great for gaming but will not do much for LrC. So I would lean towards the cheapest one with the most tensor cores.

 

[Gnits]

My advise... go one step higher than you are comfortable with. It will extend the usage a lot more towards the end of its lifecycle and you have the benefit of the improved performance immediately and for the life of the device.

When I was purchasing a GPU... prices were crazy, GPUs were in short supply , the RTX 40xx series were arriving. The sweet spot in terms of price / performance, at that time (imho) was the Rtx4060. I opted for the 4070Ti. The main reason... I wanted to step up from 8GB to 12 GB. In retrospect .. for me, it has proven to be a very good choice.

Regardless of options... make sure your Powersupply is adequate and make sure you have the correct cables from the PowerSupply to the GPU. In my case... the cables supplied with 850 Corsair and with the RTX 4070Ti were not able to cope ...

 

[Bernard]

Another chart of graphic cards relative performances :
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html

 

[BobT]

Another chart of graphic cards relative performances :
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html

The chart tells it all... well almost. There's gaming graphics, and there's AI based image processing graphics. Two sides of the same coin. There's also workstation CAD graphics but that's another world requiring precision way beyond what we do and at a considerable cost premium. The Nvidia RTX cards are essentially gaming cards. Luckily, they suit LrC AI applications well. While speed is everything in gaming, it's of minor consequence to us. It's the AI processing grunt that we seek.
Having said that, Nvidia has not overlooks us. Nvidia provides two drivers, a "game ready" driver and a "studio" driver. I've only briefly tried both and found no noticeable difference. I suspect the main difference is the frequency of updates. New games come out rapidly requiring quick driver updates to remain current. The studio driver is far less frequently updated.

 

[Califdan]

Let us know what you select

Went with the RTX 470TI SUPER.

Thanks everyone for you input

 

[PhilBurton]

Went with the RTX 470TI SUPER.

Thanks everyone for you input

For all three systems? Snag a Black Friday discount?

 

[Califdan]

For all three systems? Snag a Black Friday discount?

Just for my main desktop. the laptop and my wife's computer are not really used for any heavy GPU intensive work so just went with integrated GPU.

Yep, Got $600 off the desktop machine