Which Canon camera?

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Gabriel here. Not just my First post/thread on this site BUT EVER so if I'm writing to the wrong Forum apologies.
I'll keep my first question hopefully simple.
Currently I've got and have had for some 20 years a Canon 450D SLR and since I've now decided (in retirement) to get back into photography would welcome suggestions on a 'better' camera. NB: I'm not and have no intention of becoming a professional merely want to take photos and improve/enhance them using Lightroom predominantly and maybe Photoshop.

As I currently have 3 Canon compatible lenses then I think Canon would be the best choice.

Thanks

G
 
Welcome. I think this thread would be better suited in the Lounge forums. I would not be surprised if one of the mods move it.
 
Welcome to the forum. I do not shoot with Canon so I cannot say if their older lenses with work with a mirrorless body. If not, then you need to decide if you want to move to a mirrorless body or stay with their DSLR's. After that, it comes down to budget, need and if you want to shoot full frame or cropped sensor. If you do not mind buying used, you will have many more options as almost all the camera companies have moved to mirrorless.

Good luck,

--Ken
 
Since we are here. SLR or did you mean DSLR? Are they FD (SLR) or EF (DSLR) mount? Not sure about FD compatibly with the newer cameras, even DLSR. I don't that back with Canon. I started with 20D which was an DSLR.
 
I'm not a Canon guy but I made a switch several years ago from Nikon DSLRs to Nikon Mirrorless. I think a full frame Mirrorless is where you should be putting your money. In the case of Nikon that meant going from F-Mount Lenses to Z-Mount lenses. I was able to sell many of my F-Mount Lenses to KEF and pick up a workhorse 24-70 Z mount. Nikon sells a F2Z adapter and this allowed me to continue to use the F-Mount lenses. Perhaps there is a similar path for Canon.
 
Sorry G I messed up. The 450 is a DLSR. Are your lenses EF or EF-S? If any EF-S then you will want another crop body. What do you normally shoot and what is your budget? Do you want a better DSLR because there will be a lot of good used ones out there or do you want to get into mirrorless?
 
The 450 is the equivalent of the Rebel (in the USA), so a crop sensor DSLR. What are your lenses? That will determine if you can stick with a crop sensor or go full frame.
While mirrorless is a great idea, if you want to keep your expenditure down, there are lots of used (very good condition) DSLRs available from companies like MBP.
It really depends on what lenses you currently have and how much money you want to spend,

As you just want to enhance your amateur work (like me) there’s no pressing need to go mirrorless and indeed if you are happy with your DSLR and just want to improve your current skills, you may be happier in sticking with a DSLR.
 
What kind of photos are you interested in taking? That’s an important factor that can steer the decision.
Portraits? Landscapes and wildlife? Family? Night sky? Events?

My first digital SLR was a 350D, and really, the photos were more than good enough for most things.
Do you know what you would like in the new camera that would improve over the 450D?

For example, what I like about my current mirrorless camera over my old Canon DSLR are:
  • The sensor has much less noise when shooting in low light, you can turn up the ISO speed a lot more and still get a good quality shot.
  • The sensor records more pixels with a wider dynamic range.
  • Much better and faster autofocus, and more control over it (e.g., manual focus override).
  • Image stabilization, which also helps in low light.
  • Because it’s mirrorless, the live view is useful. The screen on the back is much larger than it was on my 350D, and it tilts and swivels.
  • The camera battery charges with a USB-C cable, which simplifies shooting on the go because I don’t need to plug a camera-specific AC battery charger into a wall. I can charge the camera from the same USB-C power adapter that I use to charge my laptop and phone, and I can charge the camera in my bag from a USB power bank.
  • It can record stabilized 4K video.
  • The camera has wi-fi, making it possible to use a smartphone or tablet app to remotely adjust settings, shoot, and transfer photos.
Many cameras today have those features. Are any of them relevant to how you plan to get back into photography, or are there other features you have heard of that you want?

Many years have passed since the 450D was released, so the suggestion to consider a used camera is a good one: If your requirements aren’t particularly demanding, even the bodies available 5 years ago are a major leap up from the 450D and have many of the features I listed.
 
I upgraded from a Sony Mirrorless a7r3 (42 Megapixel) camera to a Sony A7rv…because I really liked…
The bigger, better, higher rez, faster refresh rear screen.
A rear screen which twisted every way one would want.
The better higher Rez internal viewfinder.
The much improved ergonomics.
The much improved menu system.
Separation of stills and video functions and menus.
The super autofocus
The much improved sensor characteristics .
And more.

All of these have to do with improved real world usability.
What I did not want was a 62 Megapixel sensor… I would have been very happy with 42 of my older model. But I did not have a choice about that.

The key point… it’s not always about more megapixels or faster frame rates.. but the features which make our cameras easier to use.

Having said all that… I know from upgrading from a crop dslr to either mirrorless / full frame combo… your existing lens and their compatibility with your most desired camera model will be key decision factors.
 
Conrad Chavez said:
What kind of photos are you interested in taking? That’s an important factor that can steer the decision.
Portraits? Landscapes and wildlife? Family? Night sky? Events?

My first digital SLR was a 350D, and really, the photos were more than good enough for most things.
Do you know what you would like in the new camera that would improve over the 450D?

For example, what I like about my current mirrorless camera over my old Canon DSLR are:
  • The sensor has much less noise when shooting in low light, you can turn up the ISO speed a lot more and still get a good quality shot.
  • The sensor records more pixels with a wider dynamic range.
  • Much better and faster autofocus, and more control over it (e.g., manual focus override).
  • Image stabilization, which also helps in low light.
  • Because it’s mirrorless, the live view is useful. The screen on the back is much larger than it was on my 350D, and it tilts and swivels.
  • The camera battery charges with a USB-C cable, which simplifies shooting on the go because I don’t need to plug a camera-specific AC battery charger into a wall. I can charge the camera from the same USB-C power adapter that I use to charge my laptop and phone, and I can charge the camera in my bag from a USB power bank.
  • It can record stabilized 4K video.
  • The camera has wi-fi, making it possible to use a smartphone or tablet app to remotely adjust settings, shoot, and transfer photos.
Many cameras today have those features. Are any of them relevant to how you plan to get back into photography, or are there other features you have heard of that you want?

Many years have passed since the 450D was released, so the suggestion to consider a used camera is a good one: If your requirements aren’t particularly demanding, even the bodies available 5 years ago are a major leap up from the 450D and have many of the features I listed.
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Thanks for the detailed response. Appreciated. Got me thinking that initially I just want to get back into taking basic photos/understanding the capabilities of my camera combined with learning about Lightroom. So I'm going to stick initially with my 450 and see where that takes me.
 
Gnits said:
I upgraded from a Sony Mirrorless a7r3 (42 Megapixel) camera to a Sony A7rv…because I really liked…
The bigger, better, higher rez, faster refresh rear screen.
A rear screen which twisted every way one would want.
The better higher Rez internal viewfinder.
The much improved ergonomics.
The much improved menu system.
Separation of stills and video functions and menus.
The super autofocus
The much improved sensor characteristics .
And more.

All of these have to do with improved real world usability.
What I did not want was a 62 Megapixel sensor… I would have been very happy with 42 of my older model. But I did not have a choice about that.

The key point… it’s not always about more megapixels or faster frame rates.. but the features which make our cameras easier to use.

Having said all that… I know from upgrading from a crop dslr to either mirrorless / full frame combo… your existing lens and their compatibility with your most desired camera model will be key decision factors.
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thanks for your detailed response. Going to stick with the 450 for now and get back to the basics of understanding about photography. Will reevaluate in a year when I have a greater sense of where I want to go. G
 
gabrielengelhard said:
So I'm going to stick initially with my 450 and see where that takes me.
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Your 17 year old camera will take you to wanting a new camera with more capabilities . The 12 mp is barely able to print an 8X11 print. But it will be acceptable for learning the ins and outs of LrCalssic,
 
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