What am I seeing?

[pedz]

Lightroom Version Number

15.1

Operating System

1. macOS 26 Tahoe

I will try and describe this as best I can. I'm in Loupe mode adding keywords. The Keywording panel is open and its two sub panels are also open. The top says Keyword Suggestions. The buttom says Keyword Set. I will be talking about the top sub-panel that says Keyword Suggestions.

I have a series of images that all need the same keyword which has already been defined but not used recently. I go to the text box in Keywording and type in enough to uniquely identify the keyword and hit return. Oh... I forgot to add. While I was in Grid view, I set my filter so that only images with no keywords are displayed. Thus, as soon as I add a keyword, the image disappears and I go to the next untagged image.

So, as soon as I hit return with the keyword uniquely identified, the image is tagged and I move to the next image. The first time, the keyword I just added is not highlighted in the Keyword Suggestions. It is the first entry but not highlighted. I click it and the image is tagged and I move to the next image. Now, the first keyword is highlighted. If I click it, it becomes dim but the image is not tagged. If I click again, the image is tagged, I move to the next image, and the keyword in the Keyword Suggestions is once again highlighted. Thus, to tag a sequence of images requires two clicks for each image. There must be a reason for this but I can't figure out why.

Note also that if I click i the lower sub-panel, the one that says Keyword Set, it behaves differently. In that sub-panel, only one click per image is needed.

What is the highlighted keyword in the Keyword Suggestions telling me? Note, this is not new behavior.

 

[Califdan]

Kind of hard to follow, probably because I never use the "Keyword Suggestions" sub panel as I find it useless. It never has what I want in it and I've never seen a good explaination of how it decides which keywords to show in the panel.

If you have a whole bunch of images that need KW's I find it much easier to do it this way

1. select your "images without keywords" smart colleciton and be in the Grid view
2. Select all the images (CMD+a) and add all the images to the QC (Quick Collection) - you can use CMD+b unless you've changed the "target collection" to some other colleciton
3. Now go to the QC and select all the images that need a particular KW.
4. In the Keyword List panel, click the checkbox at the left end of the desired KW and it will be applied to all the selected images (you must be in grid view to hav e the KW applied to multiple images at once)
5. Repeat step 3 & 4 for each KW you want to apply to one or more of the images in the QC

 

[clee01l]

Like Dan, I don't use Keyword Suggestions. Instead, I use the Keyword List which holds all of my keywords. In grid view, I select one or more images that I want to assign a certain keyword to. In the Keyword List, I select the keyword I want to add and check the box to the left of the highlighted keyword. I repeat this with other keywords that I want to add to the selected images. And repeat with other images until I have added all keywords to all.
If a keyword is not in my list, I click on the (+) on the left side of the Keyword List Header to add that new keyword to the list and the selected images.

 

[pedz]

That wasn't really my question. My question is -- what is LrC trying to tell me?

 

[Johan Elzenga]

Sounds like Lightroom is telling you it has a bug.

 

[Johan Elzenga]

By the way: I have just checked this on my Mac running MacOS Tahoe, but I cannot reproduce it. Suggested keywords works as expected. One click applies the keyword to the the photo. I never see a highlighted keyword in Suggested keywords, and neither should you. The difference between Suggested keywords and Recent keywords is that Lightroom will never suggest a keyword that is already applied, so you should never see a highlighted keyword in this list. Recent keywords that are already applied will be highlighted in their list, because that is what the highlighting indicates.

Maybe you should try if resetting the preferences solves the issue.

 

[pedz]

This is definitely in the "Your Milage May Vary" category. I went out and took 150+ images with my R5 Mk 2 with a 1.4x on a RF 800mm f/11 lens... making it f/16 plus it was an overcast sky so... very high ISO, lots of grain, yuck. But the purpose of the images was just to identify birds. I can't identify my left foot so I come home, process the images, and ask Merlin Bird ID or Google images. So... I grabbed all the images and fed them to DXO Pure Raw 5 and walked away. Came back and proceeded to crop, develop, and tag the new DNG files leaving the raw files more or less untouched.

But then I noticed that the typical CRAW file was about 38MB but the DNG files were 188MB. Yuck!

So I started migrating the info from the DNG files to the RAW files such as using LrC's Denoise and copying the settings (which is mostly just cropping so I can see the bird better) from the DNG files to the RAW files. Most of the DNG files were unprocessed except for the keyword for the bird. The DNG file sorts after the CRAW file. It turns out, somehow, that as I move via the arrow keys to the next DNG file, I see the keyword but... I guess so does LrC because I then backup one image to the matching RAW file and in the Keyword Suggestions, first item, is the keyword I need to pick. It makes me wonder if this was intended or just some weird consequence or what.