Too vibrant colours in LR 2.5 64bit XP

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I have been editing some photos I took on holiday while in Australia; one of the photos was a pair of rainbow lorikeets. To cut a long story short, after what seemed a satisfactory edit I sent them off to be printed. The result on paper was a lot less vibrant to what I was seeing on the screen.
At first I put this down to my monitor and know about the difficulties of getting the same picture that’s on your screen to paper.
However, when I opened the exact same photo in an external editing program from LR (Nik Color Efex Pro 3.') I found that it looked pretty much the same as the paper version (less vibrant colour) when I saved it back into LR the extreme vibrancy came back. Obviously for some unknown reason LR is giving a very inaccurate visual of what the photograph really looks like.
Is there a way to change the general colour output of LR alone?
Am I doing something wrong?
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Colour Space was AdobeRGB(1998), it was not done on a home printer but at a professional lab by someone else. If the monitor is calibrated or not doesnt really solve my problem. For example right now i open a RAW image from my Nikon camera in LR (no editing done) then through LR i'll use an external editing software and the two same pictures (same original RAW file) will look different unedited, where LR seems to be giving to much vibrancy.
As when printed the external editing software is much more accurate.
 
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Welcome.....

First there's a bit of ambiguity in your answer, when Mark asked about Color Space, he was specifically asking about the output file. When you say the color space was AdobeRGB, was that your camera setting, or the colorspace of the exported file? (Some folks get this a bit confused, and I'm just verifying we're all talking about the same thing.)

Second, if the output was indeed AdobeRGB, a naive printer which didn't respect embedded color profiles and defaulted to sRGB processing, would be expected to produce, slightly bright but muted colored prints. Have you used AdobeRGB successfully with this particular lab before?

Thirdly, don't judge the correctness of your calibration by how things look in other applications or output methods. Lr (and CSx) are extremely color correct/aware applications, and will frequently reveal deficiencies in your systems' color management that other software glosses over. In general, most software doesn't have a clue. I don't use Nik's product currently, but I would expect that it does handle color correctly, so there's a bit of a paradox.

If you're not color/brightness calibrating your display(s) with a hardware based measurement system, you're basically chasing your tail. Mark and I don't say that from some level of color 'snob-dom', but from years of empirical experience. The questions you're asking are among the most common from Lr users. At least, at this first cut. If you're up to speed on all this, and we're answering the wrong questions, ask some more! :)
 
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Yes, i do intend to invest in Color Monki or something similar very soon as i do recognise the problems you will encounter without it.
Playing around with what both of you said i set it up to sRGB in export as when you edit to an external editing software these parameters do matter. There is definatly a uniform visual now between the software programs.
Should i always stick to sRGB when exporting?

thanks for the hel Brad and Mark
 
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[quote author=Stinger link=topic=8'3'.msg54719#msg54719 date=1254783979]
Should i always stick to sRGB when exporting?[/quote]

No, not as an absolute rule, anyway.

You should use the correct color space for your needs. If the file will be used in non-color-managed environments, then sRGB is the right choice.

For your print lab, you should ask them what color space they would like you to use. If they don't know, then use sRGB (or find another lab).
 
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