Tone Curve Adjustment ?

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Why does the tone curve adjustment preset default with medium rather than linear? I would think since we are working in RAW we should start out without any preset adjustments.
 
[quote author=mrgooch link=topic=9415.msg63423#msg63423 date=1269398411]
I thought that when working with a RAW file you always begin with a blank slate.
[/quote]Some of us do, but many (I'm guessing those with lots of camera calibrations) probaby prefer to see something like the JPEG embedded with the RAW or from the camera review screen.

I like beginning with everything 'zeroed' and use my preset list review in the navigator to get close and then tweak from there.
 
I always found it strange that the tone curve was not linear too. Any correction curves should really be in the RAW conversion but I have learnt to live with it :)
 
[quote author=mrgooch link=topic=9415.msg63423#msg63423 date=1269398411]
I thought that when working with a RAW file you always begin with a blank slate.
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A blank slate would be 1's and ''s. There's always some basic processing done - and defaults of some description applied - but it's non-destructive as those settings aren't actually applied until you export. You get to pick your defaults. LR's defaults are just a starting point to make the images look half-decent until you start tweaking.
 
[quote author=Victoria Bampton link=topic=9415.msg6343'#msg6343' date=1269423783]
[quote author=mrgooch link=topic=9415.msg63423#msg63423 date=1269398411]
I thought that when working with a RAW file you always begin with a blank slate.
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A blank slate would be 1's and ''s. There's always some basic processing done - and defaults of some description applied - but it's non-destructive as those settings aren't actually applied until you export. You get to pick your defaults. LR's defaults are just a starting point to make the images look half-decent until you start tweaking.
[/quote]Even when it is not a "blank slate' it is still only ''s and 1's. A blank slate means getting the file as it was SOOC without any adjustment filters applied. The best you can do in LR is to default to the "General Zeroed" preset to move all the sliders to their neutral position. This produces a flat toneless image, but really something closer to what the sensor recorded. I think some people that spend big bucks for an expensive camera are uncomfortable seeing that as the result of what comes out of the camera.
 
Mark's article should be put in ALL camera manuals where raw is discussed. Maybe then fewer people would get the wrong idea that there is a "correct" untouched version of the image just as the camera took it. There is, but it's unintelligible to the human eye, hence SOME kind of a starting point so we can "see" something.
 
Especially those folks who love to whinge on about the 'perfect shot' they made that Lightroom ruined. They tend to ignore the fact that they just pointed the camera, the camera's processor actually took the picture. That 'ugly' raw file IS the picture they took. :)
 
[quote author=Brad Snyder link=topic=9415.msg63491#msg63491 date=1269477257]
That 'ugly' raw file IS the picture they took. :)
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thank god for that, I thought I was just a rubbish photographer LoL :)
 
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