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Sync rating and Crop between JPGs qnd RAW

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Hi, guys.

I am a corporate photographer in Brazil. Usually I shot everything doing a backup in the camera, with one card with RAWs and the other with JPGs.

Sometimes, I take someone with me to the events and we download the JPG Card, doing some Basic adjustments so the client can post it right away.

I would like to use this working hours of my assistant, selecting and cropping my JPGs qnd apply It to my RAWs, when doing my color correction.

Would that be possible?

Any help would be very welcome.

Thanks!
 
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So how about having your associate use Photo Mechanic for the culling, cropping and straightening?

You can download both raw and JPG, but it can operate on the JPG but leave behind an XMP which will include any changes to metadata, crops and straightening, then you can import just the raw files into LR and they will come over with the XMP file and you can apply all those changes inside lightroom?

Sacrilege alert: It's also a much faster program for culling, cropping and straightening, and makes a great front end for Lightroom.

Yes, it's a separate license and not exactly cheap.

The problem with this scheme is you can't do color/brightness adjustments the same way. I THINK you could put some jpg editor behind PhotoMechanic (it allows you to edit-in like that) and this all works the same way, but never tried it. There are a ton of options in Photo Mechanic governing such things, as well as one major one in lightroom (treat jpg/raw as separate files) that might help find the right alternative. Even if you did this (separate editor for JPG) bringing over the edits is not going to work -- things like brightness, etc. are fundamentally incompatible with raw settings, as they do not work the same way in raw and JPG, so the best you can do is edit the JPG separately and redo for raw (except for crop/straighten which are compatible).
 
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PS. Done this way the culling -- whether by deletes or just tagging the ones you want, or star ratings) in PM come over just fine into LR. What I do is take all shorts in PM, tag the keepers (maybe 5-10%) and then migrate only those to LR. The rest just get deleted later en mass when I clean house of the staging directory used for PM.
 
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Lok up my Syncomatic plugin. It's designed to copy info between files with the same name but different file extensions.
 
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@johnbeardy, didn't remember that exists, thanks; how do you deal with adjustments working differently for raw and jpg?
I don't, other than letting the user choose whether to sync adjustments or not. Some do work the same way, others don't, but I think most people doing raw-jpeg syncing are more interested in the metadata. Thanks for asking, because it has prompted me to reconsider, and I may add separate check boxes for crop or various adjustment groups.
 
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The OP contacted me directly and I included this comment in my reply:

"I don't know if volume/bandwidth would be a problem, but you could use Lightroom Mobile instead of relying on JPGs. So you would sync the RAWs from Cloudy Lightroom or by importing into a phone. That means your assistant would be able to zoom in 1:1. If that's not important, you could sync from Classic Lightroom which uploads 2560 pixel files. Any crops made by your assistant would automatically sync, as would ratings, flags, titles and captions. Maybe consider this too? "
 
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