same caption throughout library

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Can anyone help with this problem? I spent hours today including new different captions on photos, and now all of a sudden, without consciously making any faux-pas, all the captions throughout the whole library - even different folders that I was not working on - have stuck on the last entry I included on one particular photo. So hours of work down the drain, not to mention the information lost. Any idea how I can restore the months-worth of previous captions. Is this a bug? Must be! Or do I just have to reinstall the last back-up? Hope not, cos foolishly I skipped backing up this morning.
 
Hi Margi, welcome to the forum. Captions work of the selected photo(s). If you are working in Loupe view and have lots of photos selected in the Grid or filmstrip, then any change you make to the metadata panel will affect all the images in the selected group not just the one image in the loupe view. Opening your latest backup catalog will put everything back to the state it was in when the catalog was saved unless you are also saving your metadata back to the file XMP or sudecar. Even this will be OK as long as you do not let the file metadata overwrite the database information. Since I've always gone the other way and let my file metadata replace my catalog metadata, I'm not sure exactly how to insure the resyncing shoud be done.

If you open your backup catalog, you should probably move it back to the local drive first. Since it will have the same name as your original, you will want to take care not to overwrite the original in case something goes wrong... goes wrong.. goes wrong.
 
[quote author=clee'1l link=topic=9'11.msg6'7'8#msg6'7'8 date=1264349'81]
Captions work of the selected photo(s). If you are working in Loupe view and have lots of photos selected in the Grid or filmstrip, then any change you make to the metadata panel will affect all the images in the selected group not just the one image in the loupe view.[/quote]

This is incorrect. In Loupe view, changes to the caption will be applied only to the current image.

For this to have happened, you must have been in Grid view on the primary monitor with multiple shots selected when you made the change.

If it's not too late, you could probably fix it with Undo. Otherwise, it's off to your backups...
 
[quote author=Mark Sirota link=topic=9'11.msg6'712#msg6'712 date=1264362536]
[quote author=clee'1l link=topic=9'11.msg6'7'8#msg6'7'8 date=1264349'81]
Captions work of the selected photo(s). If you are working in Loupe view and have lots of photos selected in the Grid or filmstrip, then any change you make to the metadata panel will affect all the images in the selected group not just the one image in the loupe view.[/quote]

This is incorrect. In Loupe view, changes to the caption will be applied only to the current image.

For this to have happened, you must have been in Grid view on the primary monitor with multiple shots selected when you made the change.

If it's not too late, you could probably fix it with Undo. Otherwise, it's off to your backups...
[/quote]Thanks for the correction. The important part is that multiple images were selected in a Library view that allowed for batch updates. I should have tried the process before I concluded that this was how the incident occured.
 
Thanks to you both. Yes I was in grid, but I certainly didn't have the whole folder highlighted when I made that particular caption change, which suddenly seemed to apply itself through the entire library, in any other folder that I opened as well. I was preparing to make the said installation of the back-up, when I figured that perhaps I could just shut down lightroom first and see if it all came back to normal on its own. Prior to this, for some unknown and illogical reason, I went into a completely different folder, highlighted all the photos (which originally had different captions and would normally read <mixed> when you do this), the caption box went blank, and a few seconds later, just filled itself up again with the right, original captions. So the problem sorted itself out for no logical reason and I didn't have to resort to the old backup. A little quirk that fortunately righted itself. The lesson I learned is perhaps to type more slowly when doing captions - sometimes my fingers get ahead of me. Also, when doing several photos with the same caption, and thus several are highlighted in the grid, after writing the caption I now click back onto one of those photos (kind of confirming the caption), before moving on to another group. This seems to have helped it not happening again. Thanks so much!
 
When you are doing this type of mass update of captions you have to allow Lightroom time to read the metadata of all files selected prior to typing. For some reason you can start to type into a box while the metadata is being read. When LR has read the metadata it resets the box. This can cause confusion-particularly if you are mid word and still typing.

After selecting all your photos, take a deep breath and watch the upper left for a Metadata Read progress bar to appear and complete. The slower your system and the larger the number of files will lengthen the time. On a cat of 85''' images with all selected on my machine it takes around 3' seconds before the metadata is read and you are ready to modify values in the boxes.
 
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