Reflection removal

[Rute]

Lightroom Version Number

14.5

Operating System

1. macOS 15 Sequoia

Has anyone tried using the Reflection option? I get this...what am I doing wrong?

 

[clee01l]

Can you post a before pic too?

Do you have an Intel Mac? If so what are the GPU specs?


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[Rute]

Can you post a before pic too?

Do you have an Intel Mac? If so what are the GPU specs?


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Here is the file unedited...just resized to upload.
I have an Intel iMac

 

[Woodbutcher]

Oddly enough, my 2019 intel mac did that before I upgraded t o14.5.1 (failed on 14.5). The odd part is when I downgraded back to 14.5, it started working. I never tested it on 14.5.1 though.

Like I said, very odd. I'll test again when I upgrade to 14.5.1 again.

but yes, in theory a gpu issue for us on the old intel macs.

 

[Paul_DS256]

I tried your picture in my LrC 14.5.1 on MacMini M4 but the image was not altered.

I couldn't find the note but it seems to be that I saw a comment that it's present focus is removing reflections from something like display windows. When you look at the instructions it only shows plate glass windows. I suspect you are on the wrong side of the glass for these reflections (for now)

 

[Johan Elzenga]

Here is the file unedited...just resized to upload.

You posted a jpeg. AFAIK, reflection removal only works with raw files.

 

[John R Ellis]

"Chipset Model: Radeon Pro 580X"

For over a year, LR's AI commands have been tripping over bugs in the graphics drivers for Intel Macs' Radeon 500- and 5000-series GPUs:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/ligh...-amd-only-affects-cr-lrc-amp-lrd/m-p/14563606

Your screenshot looks similar. The drivers in in Mac OS 15 appeared to have addressed many of the issues, but there continues to be a steady trickle of reports like yours. It looks like neither Apple nor AMD care much about fixing driver bugs for seven-year-old GPUs on a platform Apple wants to go away.

 

[John R Ellis]

AFAIK, reflection removal only works with raw files.

Reflection removal "works" with non-raws. From the help:

The Reflection Removal feature supports raw and non-raw file types.

I've tried it on several dozen photos with glass reflections, looking into and out of buildings and cars, with plate glass and curved glass, and it almost never helps much. Just now I tried it on a screenshot of the image in the help's video, and it did very little:

 

[clee01l]

Reflection removal "works" with non-raws. From the help:


I've tried it on several dozen photos with glass reflections, looking into and out of buildings and cars, with plate glass and curved glass, and it almost never helps much. Just now I tried it on a screenshot of the image in the help's video, and it did very little:

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I have been extremely disappointed in every reflection removal that I have tried since Adobe introduced the process. I too have tried it on the textbook examples that Adobe used to promote the process with less than stellar results.

 

[Califdan]

I find it works pretty wll in many cases. Where it doesn't work well is when the "reflection' is not semi transparent and it seems that the AI has to "see" something 'through' the reflection to understand that it is a reflection and not something either in front of or behind the glass.

Here's an example of where it did great. Completely removed the reflecton of town behind me that was refelected in the near window

But here it got confused. It thought the green "de Young Museum store" was a reflection as part of the coupld could be seen through it. It also throught that some light colored object inside the building were a reflection as well, probably thought that stuff was part of the "de Young Museum Store" wrtiing. But, as the couple and all the outdoor greenery was pretty opaque it did not identify it as a reflecton.

 

[Rute]

You posted a jpeg. AFAIK, reflection removal only works with raw files.

The original file is in fact in CR2. The system wouldnt allow me to upload it due to its size so I had to export it as a jpg.

 

[Rute]

I find it works pretty wll in many cases. Where it doesn't work well is when the "reflection' is not semi transparent and it seems that the AI has to "see" something 'through' the reflection to understand that it is a reflection and not something either in front of or behind the glass.

Here's an example of where it did great. Completely removed the reflecton of town behind me that was refelected in the near window
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But here it got confused. It thought the green "de Young Museum store" was a reflection as part of the coupld could be seen through it. It also throught that some light colored object inside the building were a reflection as well, probably thought that stuff was part of the "de Young Museum Store" wrtiing. But, as the couple and all the outdoor greenery was pretty opaque it did not identify it as a reflecton.
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Yes I see what its done and it worked great on your first photo. I will try it again on a clearer reflection. Plus Ive just updated my LRc. Will see how it behaves. Thank you

 

[Rute]

Oddly enough, my 2019 intel mac did that before I upgraded t o14.5.1 (failed on 14.5). The odd part is when I downgraded back to 14.5, it started working. I never tested it on 14.5.1 though.

Like I said, very odd. I'll test again when I upgrade to 14.5.1 again.

but yes, in theory a gpu issue for us on the old intel macs.

Ive just updated my LRc to 14.5.1... will try it on a better reflective shot.

 

[Rute]

"Chipset Model: Radeon Pro 580X"

For over a year, LR's AI commands have been tripping over bugs in the graphics drivers for Intel Macs' Radeon 500- and 5000-series GPUs:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/ligh...-amd-only-affects-cr-lrc-amp-lrd/m-p/14563606

Your screenshot looks similar. The drivers in in Mac OS 15 appeared to have addressed many of the issues, but there continues to be a steady trickle of reports like yours. It looks like neither Apple nor AMD care much about fixing driver bugs for seven-year-old GPUs on a platform Apple wants to go away.

Not like imacs are cheap to be able to replace them every few years. Mine is a 2019 model and its still working great besides glitches with apple products.

 

[clee01l]

Not like imacs are cheap to be able to replace them every few years. Mine is a 2019 model and its still working great besides glitches with apple products.

Why would you want a computer that is cheap and has to be replaced every few years? Ever since my very first Windows computer, I have replaced my computer with a newer model on the average every three years. The reason is the advancements in hardware and Operating systems make it needed. Apple maintains OS support for only 3 versions back and provides OS upgrades for their hardware that is no older than 5 years generally. Tahoe (MacOS 26) will be the last OS update for intel Macs.

 

[Johan Elzenga]

The original file is in fact in CR2. The system wouldnt allow me to upload it due to its size so I had to export it as a jpg.

I understand. Originally, in Camera Raw, reflection removal only worked with raw files as far as I remember. Apparently that changed now, so it should work on the jpg too (but it might not work as well, or perhaps I should say ‘even worse’),

 

[Rute]

Why would you want a computer that is cheap and has to be replaced every few years? Ever since my very first Windows computer, I have replaced my computer with a newer model on the average every three years. The reason is the advancements in hardware and Operating systems make it needed. Apple maintains OS support for only 3 versions back and provides OS upgrades for their hardware that is no older than 5 years generally. Tahoe (MacOS 26) will be the last OS update for intel Macs.

I would never go back to Windows, then I would rather go Linux ;-)