Nikon D80 Presets in LR 2.2?

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I purchased LR 2 in late fall of last year, waited until I'd purchased a new computer to install LR2, and, waiting to recalibrate my monitor I've been able to allocate this time to productive use by scanning about 25'' older color transparencies and color negatives and importing them into LR. When I originally purchased LR, the camera presets were in beta and are still available for download. I've not yet done that, and I've since updated LR2 to LR2.2. Are the camera presets, specifically for the Nikon D8', included in LR2.2? If not, would the download be likely to conflict with 2.2 in any way?
 
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Nikon D80 Presets in LR2

I also have just started to use LR2 and when i went to the camera calibration profiles i did not see any notification of presets for my D8'. Should there be something there that says D8' or are the profiles just embedded in the program.
 
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The profiles called "Camera Standard", "Camera Landscape", "Camera D2X ...", etc. are all Nikon-specific profiles tailored to each sensor. If you apply them to a D8'-generated file, it will automatically apply the D8' version of the profile.

Don't be fooled by the name "D2X" in there; it's just an unfortunate naming convention originated by Nikon.
 
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Mark,

Of the several presets you noted, how does one decide which is the one that approximately emulates the "look" of the D8''s unmodified jpgs?


Jim
 
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Is the configuration related to the color space selected, e.g., Adobe RGB (called a "color mode" on the D8')? What other functions could logically be configured as shooting defaults? Your D2'' should have the same sensors as the D8'.
 
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The color space isn't really relevant, but the JPEG conversion settings (generally, the stuff in the Optimize Image menu) are the things. The "camera" profiles won't match these perfectly, but they're reasonable approximations.
 
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I have a question along these lines. I shoot with a d4' and a while back I found this article which reported that color tests show the camera to output over-saturated reds and incorrectly hued greens and blues.

Assuming this is correct (and it seems to be), what I am wondering is this: are these inaccuracies due to flaws in the color processing of JPEG files only?

Or will RAW files be effected as well?

I only shoot RAW and I ask because if it IS a problem in the RAW files as well then I'm surprised that I cannot find any sort of d4'-specific calibration template to adjust the Lightroom sliders and bring the color correct.

Know what I mean?

And also, if it is just a JPEG problem, then I assume that if I use those different camera calibration profiles in LR 2.2 (camera standard, landscape, et cetra), then won't those do the over-saturating and screw up the hues?
 
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Ajax, welcome to the forums.
The camera profiles are camera specific and only show profiles specific to the camera that generated the raw file so you should have no problems with your D4'. I have never heard of any....... sounds like what you read/heard would apply to jpegs only.
 
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Ajax said:
And also, if it is just a JPEG problem, then I assume that if I use those different camera calibration profiles in LR 2.2 (camera standard, landscape, et cetra), then won't those do the over-saturating and screw up the hues?
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Those profiles are intended to mimic Canon's JPG styles (in camera, or DPP) when processing CRx files. If they show up in the calibration pulldown, rest assured they're specific to the camera model in the photo's EXIF data.


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The reason the styles are not titled with a model specific name, is to allow greater flexibility in creating Develop Presets: if you assign Camera Landscape in a preset, the s/w will find and assign the correct specific matching profile even when different camera models are used. (Note that Nikon confused things when they named a 'generic' photo style available to any Nikon, with a specific camera name.)
 
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Note to Brad, the o/p is using Nikon:lol::lol::lol:
And the D2X moniker is only confusing to Canon users (because they can't see them)but then that is not hard, they were even confused when they purchased their camera!! They really just wanted a photocopier!!:shock::shock::roll::roll::mrgreen::mrgreen::p:p
 
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Glasses with Nikon lenses needed Brad:lol::roll:8)
 
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Guys, thanks so much for the quick responses! First off, here's the link to that article detailing the color problems on the D4', right... HERE.

It's got all of these charts showing the d4's inaccuracies in saturation and hue. I guess my question is, being a d4' user, what the heck do I do once I import my RAW file into LR to make the correction? I understand what these charts are showing me but I'm not savvy enough to know how to determine the numerical adjustments.

Think I should make the adjustment to all files coming in by lowering the red saturation slider under my calibration settings, tweak the hues as well and save it as my default so all my imports get hit with the setting? Has anyone with a d4' already done this and if so, could they give me the exact numbers to adjust the sliders to the correct amounts? Do I edit using ACR 4.4 or, as the article alludes to, will this screw my colors up even worse than if I edit under Camera Standard (which, I think emulates the JPEG look). The article seems to say that the JPEG colors are closer to accurate, except for that red saturation...

Alright, now I'm even confusing myself. Let me put it simply: If you were shooting a d4' and read this article, what would you do to get your colors corrected? What

Thanks!
 
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Had a quick look at that review and in my opinion (the review is over 2 years old!) would disregard it completely. There are some things not quite accurate such as the camera producing good resolution at f11 - this is in fact the lens.
I haven't seen the method of colour checking they used before.
As for the camera profiles, I suggest you just experiment a little as which to use mat vary depending on your opinion and the subject, that is why there is more than one profile!
I wouldn't use the camera calibration sliders at all, they are almost redundant now with the profiles - I would be surprised to see the sliders disappear before long!
 
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I agree with Geoff, I'd ignore that review. It's as much a test of the lens they chose and the raw conversion software they used ("imatest"), as it is a test of the camera.

Every raw converter will produce different results. Since they didn't use Lightroom or Adobe Camera Raw, you can't rely on it to give any idea of what LR or Camera Raw will produce.
 
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Awesome help, guys! So, if I can ask one more quick question -- as I see you guys are both Nikon shooters -- which converter do you currently use for candid people-shots? You know -- lots of natural lighting, some bounce flash, nothing too crazy?

Again -- Thanks!
 
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I always start with LR using the Camera Standard profile. It's pretty rare that I'll pick something else, but it does happen on occasion (twice, I think, since the camera profiles came out).
 
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I have still not 1''% settled and it varies, I started with Adobe standard, now use Camera Standard and at times go for 4.4. Short answer still deciding and it changes.
 
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