Nested Keywords

[Colin Grant]

Lightroom Version Number

11.2

Operating System

1. macOS 12 Monterey

Not sure if I am missing something but if I have a nested keyword - say England>Cornwall - then when I enter the keyword "Cornwall" that is all I see unless I switch from Enter to Keywords and Containing where it will show me the keywords England and Cornwall. To me this seems a bit odd and I would expect to see the hierarchy (as being applied) in the Enter section. Is this a reason for this or am I missing something?

Thanks

 

[johnrellis]

When you have a hierarchical keyword Cornwall < England, the Enter Keywords box normally will display it simply as "Cornwall". But if there is another Cornwall in the hierarchy, e.g. Cornwall < Pennsylvania, then to disambiguate them, the Enter Keywords and Keywords & Containing Keywords boxes will display them fully qualified, Cornwall < England and Cornwall < Pennsylvania.

When you assign Cornwall < England to a photo, it has one keyword explicitly assigned (Cornwall) and one keyword implicitly assigned (England), where England "contains" Cornwall. LR considers both keywords to be assigned to the photo, so if you do the filter or smart collection criterion Keywords Contains Words England, that will match a photo assigned Cornwall. And when you export the photo, the exported photo will have two exported keywords, Cornwall and England, which is why they both appear in the Keywording > Will Export box.

 

[Philippe Coudé du Foresto]

"Enter keywords" as it indicates, shows the keywords you've explicitly entered, whereas "Keywords & Containing Keywords", as it indicates, also shows all the keyyword contained in the image. This seems logical to me.

 

[Colin Grant]

The weakness is that you do not know if a keyword is part of a hierarchy or not when you enter it. That certainly seems illogical (certainly unhelpful) to me. John, what happens if you have say Cornwall as part of a heirarchy and another Cornwall outside of that? Does it assign both?

 

[Jan Roelof]

The weakness is that you do not know if a keyword is part of a hierarchy or not when you enter it. That certainly seems illogical (certainly unhelpful) to me. John, what happens if you have say Cornwall as part of a heirarchy and another Cornwall outside of that? Does it assign both?

You might have a look at John's Any Tag plugin.

 

[Colin Grant]

Thanks Jan, that looks really useful.

John, I have answered my own question re duplicate keywords - it gives an option .