More confusion

[I Simonius]

Im still getting confused as to which files and which version of files are where e.g there are 6 tiff and 3 CR2 files in my quick collection and previous import has all tiff so were's the origianl collection of CR2 files I was working on before I made all the chages? Library somewhere - but which folder ? I can't find them..

I had saved some files as tiff (sorry 'EXPORTED' - I do wish the 'saved as' convention hadn't been changed - I understood that intuitively whereeas 'export' 'sounds like the original is going off on holiday.. or something.)), had them also in Qiuck collection, but looked at some other ifiles in the meantime, probably moved something, and wanted to got back to the original files that I had set with the presets (several versions of same image), clicked on previuous import and they were there , but I don't know whether these are 'originals' in the sense that these are the first versions I made but before I did other tings to them like saving as ( I mean exporting) or where the originals are even anymore,: I just can't seem to keep all these folders, collections, previous imports, etc in my head!

Added to that I have several folders inside folders all named the same i.e. Lightroom exports>lightroom exports..

This thing is SO far from intuitive for my wayof thinking

I am trying to persevere and I know Im a pain to you guys that can grok this but why am I having so much trouble working with LR?

I know it's probably a question of time, but when I did the HND I find to this day that I still don't use 'Flash' but would rather use a 3D program! somethings just seem utterly unintuitive. I never have this problem with the mac Finder, or Bridge, or Photoshop, but LR does remind me of 'Flash' in that I found that really difficult, and once I hadn't used it for a day or so , completely forgot how to do it - seesm like LR is having the same effect on me! aaaagh!

Everytime I come back to it I can't remember where I was!

Tried 'Find' but that's a n inefficient way of navigating all the time, (OK for occasional, ) it gets me the originals but not the versions i had been working on

BTW - Does this mean that once you have exported files as tiffs the files you were working on no longer show as CR2 s but as Tiff?

 

[I Simonius]

Im still getting confused as to which files and which version of files are where e.g there are 6 tiff and 3 CR2 files in my quick collection and previous import has all tiff so were's the origianl collection of CR2 files I was working on before I made all the chages? Library somewhere - but which folder ? I can't find them..

I had saved some files as tiff (sorry 'EXPORTED' - I do wish the 'saved as' convention hadn't been changed - I understood that intuitively whereeas 'export' 'sounds like the original is going off on holiday.. or something.)), had them also in Qiuck collection, but looked at some other ifiles in the meantime, probably moved something, and wanted to got back to the original files that I had set with the presets (several versions of same image), clicked on previuous import and they were there , but I don't know whether these are 'originals' in the sense that these are the first versions I made but before I did other tings to them like saving as ( I mean exporting) or where the originals are even anymore,: I just can't seem to keep all these folders, collections, previous imports, etc in my head!

Added to that I have several folders inside folders all named the same i.e. Lightroom exports>lightroom exports..

This thing is SO far from intuitive for my wayof thinking

I am trying to persevere and I know Im a pain to you guys that can grok this but why am I having so much trouble working with LR?

I know it's probably a question of time, but when I did the HND I find to this day that I still don't use 'Flash' but would rather use a 3D program! somethings just seem utterly unintuitive. I never have this problem with the mac Finder, or Bridge, or Photoshop, but LR does remind me of 'Flash' in that I found that really difficult, and once I hadn't used it for a day or so , completely forgot how to do it - seesm like LR is having the same effect on me! aaaagh!

Everytime I come back to it I can't remember where I was!

Tried 'Find' but that's a n inefficient way of navigating all the time, (OK for occasional, ) it gets me the originals but not the versions i had been working on

BTW - Does this mean that once you have exported files as tiffs the files you were working on no longer show as CR2 s but as Tiff?

sorry no one has replied Simon, let me see if I can help:lol::lol::lol:
Actually I just wanted to say that Im REALLY plesed to see that the latest podcast addresses exactly the issues Im having- so Im not bats after all!

I haven't had a chance to listen to it all yet so I'll report back if it's all as clear as mud after

 

[Ian Farlow]

...so Im not bats after all!

You did reply to yourself, though. :shock:

 

[Kiwigeoff]

Im still getting confused as to which files and which version of files are where e.g there are 6 tiff and 3 CR2 files in my quick collection and previous import has all tiff so were's the origianl collection of CR2 files I was working on before I made all the chages? Library somewhere - but which folder ? I can't find them..

They will be where you put them, nowhere else. You ought to know the numbers from the tiffs you have and could find them using their number

I had saved some files as tiff (sorry 'EXPORTED' - I do wish the 'saved as' convention hadn't been changed - I understood that intuitively whereeas 'export' 'sounds like the original is going off on holiday.. or something.)), had them also in Qiuck collection, but looked at some other ifiles in the meantime, probably moved something, and wanted to got back to the original files that I had set with the presets (several versions of same image), clicked on previuous import and they were there , but I don't know whether these are 'originals' in the sense that these are the first versions I made but before I did other tings to them like saving as ( I mean exporting) or where the originals are even anymore,: I just can't seem to keep all these folders, collections, previous imports, etc in my head!
Export is for using when you want a file to leave LR or a different version of a LR file. If you want to do some adjustments outside of LR just use "edit in whatever programme" you wish to use, when you do this the file can be stacked with the original and will be in the same folder alongside it.

Added to that I have several folders inside folders all named the same i.e. Lightroom exports>lightroom exports..
These you have created when you have been exporting, you have given LR the instruction to do this, LR can do nothing except follow your instructions/commands. Just take it easy and go through the steps carefully for export and you will find you can export to wherever you want!!

This thing is SO far from intuitive for my wayof thinking
You may try changing your thinking and see if that helps. LR won't change anytime soon!! :lol:

I am trying to persevere and I know Im a pain to you guys that can grok this but why am I having so much trouble working with LR?
Only you can answer that but remember that persistence wins always, so keep at it!!

I know it's probably a question of time, but when I did the HND I find to this day that I still don't use 'Flash' but would rather use a 3D program! somethings just seem utterly unintuitive. I never have this problem with the mac Finder, or Bridge, or Photoshop, but LR does remind me of 'Flash' in that I found that really difficult, and once I hadn't used it for a day or so , completely forgot how to do it - seesm like LR is having the same effect on me! aaaagh!

Everytime I come back to it I can't remember where I was!

Tried 'Find' but that's a n inefficient way of navigating all the time, (OK for occasional, ) it gets me the originals but not the versions i had been working on

BTW - Does this mean that once you have exported files as tiffs the files you were working on no longer show as CR2 s but as Tiff?
Of course not, you have exported the tiffs to a different place, that's all.

Try using Virtual Copies for different presets etc. Why do you make new Tiffs?

Best of luck................

 

[I Simonius]

You did reply to yourself, though. :shock:

who said that? I can hear voices!:lol:

 

[I Simonius]

Best of luck................

thanks looks like luck and persistence are exactly what I do need.

There's an analogy that comes to mind, it may or may not be accurate - I don't know , but it comes to mind, and it is this : LR is to Photoshop, like working with Windows is to a Mac User.

Everything is similar but not the same, things don't work the way you expect them to. It's like the difference I experienced between the Mac 'Finder (OS9 especially) where hierarchies, structure and modus operandi were really obvious, with windows they go all over the place. They don't obviously, but it seems that way to a first time Mac user of Windows.

I'e it has so many things that seem convoluted ways of doing it to my mind ( that's not a criticism, just my experience)

I will get knighted hopefully for my efforts - Sir Percy Vere!
(persevere - geddit geddit?:lol:roll: