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Import LR is changing my colors before everything !?

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GGdeTOURS

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Good morning,
Recently, when I import my photos into Lightroom, it automatically modifies the color temperatures for each photo. We see it first of all because the temperature slider is automatically moved (no longer in the middle) and we also see it quite simply by comparing the photo with the "before / after" mode: the two photos have a different temperature before even making the slightest modification?!?
Does anyone know how to prevent this?
Thanks in advance!
 
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Are you specifying any improt preset (under grid in import dialog) or Develop Settings (right "Appl;y During Import
panel in the import dialog?

What profile is selected in the develop module (top of the basic panel)?
 
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GGdeTOURS said:
Good morning,
Recently, when I import my photos into Lightroom, it automatically modifies the color temperatures for each photo. We see it first of all because the temperature slider is automatically moved (no longer in the middle) and we also see it quite simply by comparing the photo with the "before / after" mode: the two photos have a different temperature before even making the slightest modification?!?
Does anyone know how to prevent this?
Thanks in advance!
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Let me start by saying that the sliders do not have to be in the middle, unless you are importing RGB files. For RGB files both sliders should be zero, but for raw files they will be set according to what the camera recorded as white balance. There is a bug in Lightroom Classic that manifests itself if you import using embedded previews, however. See: https://community.adobe.com/t5/ligh...y-when-using-embedded-previews/idi-p/14635607 . Perhaps that is what you experience?
 
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TY for the help!
1) I didn't specified anything!
2) The profile is "adobe color"
I translate because in French ...
 
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TYVM for your help. But sorry it's hard for me to read all the long threads in English you propose me.
What is the ultimate solution to import my RAW photos and find them in Lightroom with the color balance unchanged ?
 
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Johan Elzenga said:
This is a bug, but as far as I can tell, it only occurs if you import with ‘Embedded & sidecar’ as preview setting. So set it to ‘Standard-sized Previews’.
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TY SOOOO much! This is it I think!
it's in French but i did this :

 
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The cursor is still out of the center (before it was always in the center) but anyway ... No more big difference of colors!
 
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GGdeTOURS said:
The cursor is still out of the center (before it was always in the center) but anyway ... No more big difference of colors!
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You remember this incorrectly. The sliders should not be in the center. They are at the ‘As Shot’ position, that Lightroom reads from the image metadata. They are only in the center (at zero) if you shoot jpeg, not if you shoot raw (unless they are by coincidence). However, if the screenshot shows the image directly after import, then I think you use a develop preset on import that sets the sliders at 6300 and +1, because I assume that ‘Personnal’ translates as ‘Custom’ in English, so these are not the ‘As Shot’ values.
 
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Johan Elzenga said:
You remember this incorrectly. The sliders should not be in the center. They are at the ‘As Shot’ position, that Lightroom reads from the image metadata. They are only in the center (at zero) if you shoot jpeg, not if you shoot raw (unless they are by coincidence). However, if the screenshot shows the image directly after import, then I think you use a develop preset on import that sets the sliders at 6300 and +1, because I assume that ‘Personnal’ translates as ‘Custom’ in English, so these are not the ‘As Shot’ values.
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OK TY So the cursor will be "as shot" so different with each shooting.
(yes here it was on "custom" only because I was desperatly moving everything but it's usually on "As shot").
So I suppose this 6300 and +1 was for this photo only. I still don't know why this happened ? Anyway TY for the help!
I usually know exactly what color temperature I want for each photo but to manage this via the softwares is very hard for my generation LOL!
 
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GGdeTOURS said:
I still don't know why this happened ?
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I think I explained that. It happened because there is a bug that causes it if you import with ‘Embedded & sidecar’ as Previews setting.

GGdeTOURS said:
I usually know exactly what color temperature I want for each photo but to manage this via the softwares is very hard for my generation LOL!
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I’m only 70 years old, so I don’t have that problem yet. :)
 
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Now that I import by setting "create previews" to "standard" (French translations) > This no longer offers me these huge temperature shifts. Even if there is always a little difference and I never see a strictly identical "before / after" ... ??? Is it the fact that my Canon is set to sRGB and not AdobeRGB? Or any other reason?

And my God, the white balance is so SUBJECTIVE!
I work sometimes with other photographers and we don't see the world at the same color temperature, for sure LOL!
 
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GGdeTOURS said:
Now that I import by setting "create previews" to "standard" (French translations) > This no longer offers me these huge temperature shifts. Even if there is always a little difference and I never see a strictly identical "before / after" ... ??? Is it the fact that my Canon is set to sRGB and not AdobeRGB? Or any other reason?

And my God, the white balance is so SUBJECTIVE!
I work sometimes with other photographers and we don't see the world at the same color temperature, for sure LOL!
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sRGB and AdobeRGB settings in the camera are for JPEGs produced by the camera. You should be shooting RAW CR2 images. RAW images get the icc color profile set when ACR converts the RAW photosite data into RGB pixels. If you shoot RAW, you can ignore any in camera modes as these only apply to RGB images.


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GGdeTOURS said:
Is it the fact that my Canon is set to sRGB and not AdobeRGB? Or any other reason?
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No, that setting is irrelevant for raw images. It is only relevant for your camera previews and when you shoot in jpeg.
 
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clee01l said:
sRGB and AdobeRGB settings in the camera are for JPEGs produced by the camera. You should be shooting RAW CR2 images. RAW images get the icc color profile set when ACR converts the RAW photosite data into RGB pixels. If you shoot RAW, you can ignore any in camera modes as these only apply to RGB images.


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TYVM!
 
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Does anybody knows were those slight differences between "before / after" (before any retouching) come from?
My dream is to be the only one deciding for each change (even minor) of the color temperature! Not a damn bot!
 
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GGdeTOURS said:
Does anybody knows were those slight differences between "before / after" (before any retouching) come from?
My dream is to be the only one deciding for each change (even minor) of the color temperature! Not a damn bot!
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I don't think it is automated. You choose the camera profile and this has already predetermined the color temperature and the WB as set bey the camera. This initial image that you see from the RAW file is a starting point with settings determine for WB that defaults to "As Shot". A WB setting og "Auto" will let the image white point be selected automatically and this then determines the color temperature. the other six standard settings are defined color temperatures for established lighting situations "Custom" lets you choose a specific color temperature.

The important point to understand is that with RAW images you control the Exposure, WB and Color temperature as these are not fixed as they are in the camera JPEG. Whe RAW is converted to RGB, the demoasicing app need to provide some Tone, exposure, NR and WB, otherwise the image would appear a flat, toneless and noisy image which you would reject immediately.
 
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TYVM but I'm having a lot of trouble following you so I'm going to stay in "Standard" preview before importing and "Adobe color" when processing! I'm just a real zero in computers (lol) who only love the images. My website for the fun > photofreelance.fr
 
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