LR/DxO compatiblity questions

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I am relatively new to LR, and just downloaded the trial of DxO, mainly to be used for its noise reduction and distortion correction tools. I understand from reading the DxO website's tutorials that I should be applying any changes to my images in DxO first, and then in LR.
I am guessing that I should convert the image to a DNG file when saving it in DxO (as opposed to a TIFF) - to then be imported to LR for further processing. Is this right? Right now, by using LR for everything, it's my understanding that there are NO changes to my original RAW files. If I use DxO, those files will be converted to DNG files. Is the original still intact? Do I lose anything in the RAW to DNG conversion? I'm obviously not clear on the whole process, and want to be sure I'm doing all I can to keep as much information intact in the post processing workflow.
 
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kgilby, I believe that the DXO DNG is a linear/demosaiced file that by itself does not have all of the information contained in the full raw. That said, I know that Victoria does some work with DXO, and has recently done some research on the best workflow. Rather than risk garbling what she's found, I'll yield the floor to her .....


Edit: LOL, oops, VB's on the case.....
 
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Victoria Bampton said:
Have a read of this thread, and then feel free to ask any questions that still aren't clear - I think it answers most of them. http://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/showthread.php?t=6296
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Thanks Victoria. After reading your earlier posts, I will probably not continue with DxO, and will take a look at PTLens for correcting distortion. Can you suggest a noise reduction application that can be used in conjunction with LR, and maintain file information, etc.? Or do you think LR can be used for acceptable noise reduction? Thanks again.
 
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DXO does a nice job of the lens corrections, no question. It's just the workflow that's a huge hassle factor. If DXO could work on the resulting jpeg/tiff/psd files, it would be a no brainer.

Personally I tend to use Noise Ninja on the exported file for noise reduction where the noise is too bad for LR's own noise reduction.
 
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Victoria Bampton said:
DXO does a nice job of the lens corrections, no question. It's just the workflow that's a huge hassle factor. If DXO could work on the resulting jpeg/tiff/psd files, it would be a no brainer.

Personally I tend to use Noise Ninja on the exported file for noise reduction where the noise is too bad for LR's own noise reduction.
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Thanks Victoria. When you do use Noise Ninja, are you applying it after all other processing, including sharpening?
 
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It generally works best with LR's export sharpening and noise reduction turned off, IMHO.
 
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Victoria Bampton said:
It generally works best with LR's export sharpening and noise reduction turned off, IMHO.
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I didn't know about LR's 'export' sharpening and noise reduction. Does it do that in addition to any sharpening and/or noise reduction that has already been done within LR prior to exporting?
I guess my question was - if you use it, do you do your noise reduction in Noise Ninja last, after all other processing in LR?

Ken
 
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Yes I'd do all other raw processing first, because Noise Ninja only outputs jpeg/tiff/psd, and I want all of the raw data available to LR. I turn off noise reduction in LR's Develop module, although I often leave the Develop module capture sharpening turned on. I leave the Export sharpening in the Export dialog turned off and sharpen after (or during) noise reduction.
 
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Victoria Bampton said:
Yes I'd do all other raw processing first, because Noise Ninja only outputs jpeg/tiff/psd, and I want all of the raw data available to LR. I turn off noise reduction in LR's Develop module, although I often leave the Develop module capture sharpening turned on. I leave the Export sharpening in the Export dialog turned off and sharpen after (or during) noise reduction.
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Thanks for your detailed explanation Victoria, it was very helpful. Are there any indications that DxO may become better able to integrate with LR in the future?

Ken
 
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I think it's unlikely in the immediate future Ken. That said, I'm really hoping that LR will gain some lens corrections of its own.
 
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