Importing images.

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Braders

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1. need more speed on import. This still sucks. i don't mean the rendering, just the import.

2. need the ability to import more than one set at a time. ie: different CF cards. Once the Cf is rejected, while the rendering is in progress i should be able to start a new import process.

3. need the ability to import to more than one location from same import. ie: same CF card - half filled with a model shoot and half with travel shots going to different folders.

4. More than one "previous import" folder in the Catalogue. Would be nice if say the previous 'x' could be chosen in preferences.
 
I wonder what's slow about the import for you. What kind of cards, what kind of card reader, what kind of connection? Are you backing up on import? Converting to DNG? Writing to fast disk?

This part of the import process seems fast to me, but I don't back up on import or convert to DNG; LR releases the card as soon as it's done copying from it, and then I can start another. (I rarely use more than one card in a shoot, do I'd need to verify that I can start another while rendering is going before confirming that, but I think I've done it before.)

Many people have requested #3, which was available in 1.x (or was it the original public beta?). Good one for a feature request (link in the blue bar at the top).

I like #4 -- I'd suggest a feature request for that one too.
 
About your point #3:

I didn't try but in Preferences under the Import tab, the second option is "Ignore camera-generated folder names when naming folders". What if you make a folder in camera for the model shoot and another for travel and then import without the checkmark in front of this option? Would you then just have to rename the folders created? :roll:
 
Mark is right on with his import questions: the card reader, connection, and computer type have a much greater influence on import speed than LR. Case in point: my son (who also shoots with a 5D) used to complain bitterly that his full 12GB card would take hours to download using LR2 on his HP Pavilion desktop with built-in CF card reader. He switched to a MacBook and external firewire 4'' reader and now completes his downloads in about 3' minutes. He imports the images RAW with backup. I don't know about you, but that seems quite reasonable to me!

For my workflow, I've moved away from DNG conversion on import to converting the keepers only. It's a real timesaver!

If importing multiple cards to multiple folders is critical to your workflow, I would recommend the Delkin Devices ImageRouter card reader and their dedicated software. After import, you could just import the appropriate folders into LR's library.
 
Confirming for Mark on item 2

Reference #2

This works for me today. I have no problem importing a second card while the first is rendering. I have actually had two previous cards rendering while importing the third.
 
Ref #2

Having multiple CF slots, I can start two imports before the rendering even start. There is absolutely no speed gain but I can go take a beer rather than make an instant coffee. ;)
 
I guess I will put in my "two bits" into this thread. If I do a local shoot, I use my Sandisk Extreme Firewire Compactflash card reader and I plug that into my desktop. The reader is rated at 4'MB/sec; do you think that is fast? I do!

If I go on my over-seas trips, I do my initial edit on my Epson P-5''' then I transfer those images to my laptop. Then, I do my second edit. By then, the amount of images have gone down so it be somewhat bearable when I transfer the images from the laptop to desktop(via external HD and USB cable).

Bob- the slide shooter at heart

PS: I can go back to film and not deal with this computer stuff!
 
Off Topic....

Braders I went to your website (being nosey) and none of the links on the home page seemed to work with Safari.
 
Mark

1. I am limited to the computer specs you see CF Sandisc ExtremeIII on a USB2 CF card reader, going to an external drive with no back ups. I don't have firewire or eSata. I do convert to DNG. This has sucked from the beta for me. I just need a new computer but the 5dII has priority.

2. This has been the same for since day one as well. No matter what i try.

3. The in camera suggestion might work, but if you've read my 4'' other posts you'll soon learn i am anal about not having to do work rounds. This should be a logical inclusion to the import process.

4. request sent.

my website is under construction - my blog is a week away from finshed, so that might be affecting things.
 
Mark

1. I am limited to the computer specs you see CF Sandisc ExtremeIII on a USB2 CF card reader, going to an external drive with no back ups. I don't have firewire or eSata.
Brad,

This is the "bottleneck" of your speed issues. When I connect the firewire from my external HD to the desktop, the speed is quite noticeable.

I have tried eSATA cable but for me; it does not work at all. Despite help from my computer friends and family(I am talking about computer science& electrical engineering degrees from Stanford and Berkeley), they cannot figure that either which I think is very funny.

After buying your camera, your next priority is a new computer.
Bob- the slide shooter at heart
 
A word to the wise, then -- a great many people have found the 5DII demands a new computer. That's a lot of megapixels to deal with. Big files require fast disk and card readers, plenty of memory, and fast CPUs.


Boooooooo!! oh how to make a man depressed - just tell him the truth!
 
1. I am limited to the computer specs you see CF Sandisc ExtremeIII on a USB2 CF card reader, going to an external drive with no back ups. I don't have firewire or eSata. I do convert to DNG. This has sucked from the beta for me. I just need a new computer but the 5dII has priority.

One area for improvement. Don't convert to DNG while importing. Now I know that sounds odd, but keep listening....! I'm not saying don't convert to DNG, as I rather like DNG these days, but it does slow down imports, particularly on huge files. The solution is easy though.

Import without converting. Work on the files as you like. Later, when you're going off for dinner, bed, whatever, select all of the proprietary raw files and use the Library > Convert Photos to DNG. That'll convert them in place, swapping them automatically in your catalog, and deleting the proprietary raw file for you on successful conversion. It just saves you watching it!
 
One area for improvement. Don't convert to DNG while importing. Now I know that sounds odd, but keep listening....! I'm not saying don't convert to DNG, as I rather like DNG these days, but it does slow down imports, particularly on huge files. The solution is easy though.

Import without converting. Work on the files as you like. Later, when you're going off for dinner, bed, whatever, select all of the proprietary raw files and use the Library > Convert Photos to DNG. That'll convert them in place, swapping them automatically in your catalog, and deleting the proprietary raw file for you on successful conversion. It just saves you watching it!

Thanks, but i think i need a new computer. I exported 44 jpegs from my DNG files last night and it took 35 minutes!!!!

Working in LR is speady for me, the import./export is what drives me nuts.
 
Eugh! I think you need a new computer too! Your files on internal or external? Could be the bottleneck.
 
Brad,

After you buy your new camera, you can imagine the speed issues getting even worse. Yes, a new computer is warranted. Fortunately, computers are getting faster and faster. The longer you wait- the more faster computer you can buy.

Bob- the slide shooter at heart
 
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