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I have noticed using Auto Tone and Profiles

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I use my Cameras profile. Auto Tone works well but I find sometimes underexposes. I always thought it was protecting highlights. I decided to set up a profile using Colourchecker Passport. To my surprise the new profile does not underexpose. I tried Adobe Colour and the same. No underexposure.

First image is Canon'profile
 

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Not looking for a solution. Just an observation I thought I'd pass on.
 

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Interesting. I would have been interested if you'd included the histogram/sliders panel in photo 1 to be able to compare.
Dave
 

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Sure. I was quite surprised as I just thought that was normal. It doesn't happen every time. Maybe 25% of extreme exposure reductions. I have been applying the ColourCecker (CCP) profile randomly to files from various shoots and it is far more accurate. Same thing for Adobe Colour. It just does a better job.
 

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Here is the file using the Transfer to DXO command and exported back to LR as a TIFF. It dropped the exposure but not as drastically.
 

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I got CCP a few years ago but I really didn't like the blues. Seemed a little too saturated. I realize that using a colour chart makes it correct but Canon's profile looked closer to what I see everyday. I know the science behind it (worked in print media) and in my world I don't really need profiling. My monitor is calibrated . Auto Tone is better and more consistent using Adobe profiles or the one generated by CCP. The base starting point is much closer now.

With the blues as you see in the flag Adobe Colour is about half way between Canon and CPP. I have been testing random files and I'm warning up to the CPP version. When I did first try it I have to admit skin tones looked good but I'm not in that business.
 

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Not sure if you shoot with Canon Dave. So while I understand CPP is correct it's just not doing it for me. I have it and will apply it in lighting situations as needed. For general shooting I have always liked Canon Colours and typically use Camera Standard. I guess it is what I'm used t. To get around the exposure thingy I was experimenting with Adobe. Adobe Colour is close but lacks that little bit of punch I'm used to. Adobe Vivid is more punchy than Standard but I have been messing around with it.

I realize I'm working with what I think are pleasing colours and not an industry standard. At least now I'm getting consistent exposures from Sensei. Here is my recipe using Adobe Vidid and Jeffrey's Personalized Auto Tone. I may tweak Saturation/Vibrance as I go to tone it down.

I compare Canon Standard and Auto Tone (and tweak exposure to match Adobe if needed) to Vivid and Personal Auto Tone.
 

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