How can one get and keep the order of the virtuel copies by the date / time they were created?

Biff

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How can one get and keep the order of the virtuel copies by the date / time they were created?


The first VC is right next to the original, the one after the next on the right of the next one, etc.
 

Biff

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Here?


Does not seem to help.
 

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You can type the date into the "Copy" field in the Metadata panel and set your View Options to show you the Copy name as well as the image file name. But as far as I know, you can't sort by copy name, but at least then you can see it and then drag the images into copy name order which will reset the grid sort to "custom".

I have encountered the same problem of keeping VC's in order, especially when there are also Tiff's or PSD's from Photoshop edits mixed in as well as non linear situations such as V1 -> V2 -> V3 -> V4, but then V5 was derived from V3 (not V4), etc. What I do is this. Any image without a "copy name" is by default V1 (original) and I just leave it as is. Then when I make each derivative such as a VC or Photoshoped version I assign a version number and which version it was derived from. So, for example"

1) Original image (possibly edited in LR)
File name = "IMG_1234.CR2"
Copy name = <blank>.

2) First VC from possibly edited original. This VC is a version that that I cropped
File name = "IMG_1234.CR2"
Copy name = "V2=V1 + tight crop"

3) 2nd VC which is B&W rendition version of cropped VC
File name =-"IMG_1234.CR2"
Copy name = "V3=V2 + B&W"

4) Sent 2nd VC to PS where I cloned out tourist
File name = "IMG_1234-V4.PSD" (renamed in LR after closing in PS)
Copy name = "V4=V3 + clone out tourist"

5) Took V3 (version originally sent to PS that still has tourist) and re-cropped into square format
File name = "IMG_1234.CR2"
Copy name = "V5=V3+Square".

6) Made VC from PS edited version - the one after tourist-ectomy - and added split toning in LR
File Nmae = "IMG_1234-V4.PSD"
Copy name = "V6=V4 + split tone"

As you can see, each image (except the original) has a copy name showing the current iteration, or version, number and which version was its immediate predecessor. And in the case where a new physical file is generated from an external editor such as Photoshop or Silver Effects, the file returned from that editor also gets the version number in place of the default word "-edit". It's not overly elegant but at least I can re-trace the pedigree of the image. It sure would be nice to be able to add notes to the History panel for such info in addition, but this info (file name and copy name) can be seen on the image canvas in the Grid.
 

Biff

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Many thanks!

It seems to take a little effort, a little manually renaming of the copy names. To show the copy names of the VCs is a good idea, so one quickly can identify the VCs. I will try it out.

The best woul be if the complete history would be copied to the VC when creating a new one.

Many thanks again.
 
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