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dkperez
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I read some topics in here from early this year, but figured rather than starting up the 6-month-old threads again, I try a new one.
My current Windows 10 Pro system has a 970 GTX card. And Lightroom 10 SAYS “your system provides full acceleration” or whatever it says when you stick it in Auto. In truth, performance in Lightroom 10 is “poor” (more polite than it SUCKS.) And in Photoshop 2021 it’s even worse. Scrubby zoom won’t work in ANY mode, and most tools are so laggy I just reinstalled PS 2020 because of the slowness. I'm on the bubble about going back to Lightroom 2020, but waiting for the moment.
Like a lot of people (I suspect), I just want a graphics card that WORKS but doesn’t cost more than my first car. That’ll actually WORK in both Lightroom Classic and Photoshop. No messing around, no picking "auto" or "custom" in Lightroom and seeing WHICH operations are fast or slow - just shove it into "Auto" and it WORKS. Same in Photoshop - turn on Graphics Acceleration, put it in Advanced and it WORKS. And Scrubby Zoom WORKS. No more laggy clone tool, magic wand, brush, etc. in PS. No slow, laggy performance in Lightroom doing spot healing, or dragging the adjustment brush around a 45 megapixel D850 image, and so on.
A card that when the next version of Lightroom comes out, STILL works. That as Adobe increases the number of things that benefit from AI and graphics acceleration, just WORKS.
It would be a nice bonus if whatever I use would work in Helicon Focus so it's actually faster with the graphics acceleration TURNED ON than leaving it off. HF is a graphics card memory hog and they recommend at least 8GB to be adequate, so HOPEFULLY anything that works optimally in LR and PS will also work well with Helicon.
I haven’t seen anything from Adobe on what will actually work "adequately" or "optimally" as opposed to "minimum requirements), which my current card, I believe, meets. If Adobe HAS put out information on this, can someone point me there?
It doesn’t have to be future proof for the next decade, but it would be nice if the GPU was still working optimally in 2 or 3 years.
Looking at Puget System’s testing of Photoshop and Lightroom, the differences between the onboard Intel 630 and the 2080, 3080, 3090 class of cards shows NOT what I think of as a significant difference in performance. A little improvement between the onboard Intel 630 and the $1300+ cards, but NOT anything that looked worthwhile. The “overall score” for the 630 was 969 and the 2080 Ti was 1092 – about 12% higher… I was expecting something in the 10 or 20 or even 50 TIMES faster, not 12%.
Directly from their text:
The GPU score is calculated based on the performance for the Rotate, Smart Sharpen, Field Blur, Tilt-Shift Blur, and Iris Blur tests - all of which are able to utilize the GPU to improve performance.
Unfortunately, even if we only look at these specific tests, there is still no meaningful difference between each of the discrete video cards. The only results that we may be outside the margin of error are the AMD Radeon Vega 64 and 5700XT, but even those cards are only ~5% slower than the fastest score which is going to be extremely difficult to notice in day-to-day work.
For Lightroom Classic, I think they used LR 2019, so things may be very different with Lightroom 10. The RTX 2080 was only about 8 – 9% faster than the RX 5700 XT and only about 5% faster than the onboard Intel 630 (I’m not sure HOW the onboard 630 was faster than anything, but it’s Puget Systems’ chart).
I DON’T see me going out and buying a Geforce RTX 3090 24 GB card or anything close to the $500 and up group of cards. And I have to believe the law of diminishing returns for Lightroom and Photoshop would kick in LONG BEFORE the $500 mark, and a far more REASONABLE card would work extremely well for the foreseeable future…
So, WHICH cards ARE that? And HOW MUCH has Lightroom 10 CHANGED the requirements for a graphics card?
My current Windows 10 Pro system has a 970 GTX card. And Lightroom 10 SAYS “your system provides full acceleration” or whatever it says when you stick it in Auto. In truth, performance in Lightroom 10 is “poor” (more polite than it SUCKS.) And in Photoshop 2021 it’s even worse. Scrubby zoom won’t work in ANY mode, and most tools are so laggy I just reinstalled PS 2020 because of the slowness. I'm on the bubble about going back to Lightroom 2020, but waiting for the moment.
Like a lot of people (I suspect), I just want a graphics card that WORKS but doesn’t cost more than my first car. That’ll actually WORK in both Lightroom Classic and Photoshop. No messing around, no picking "auto" or "custom" in Lightroom and seeing WHICH operations are fast or slow - just shove it into "Auto" and it WORKS. Same in Photoshop - turn on Graphics Acceleration, put it in Advanced and it WORKS. And Scrubby Zoom WORKS. No more laggy clone tool, magic wand, brush, etc. in PS. No slow, laggy performance in Lightroom doing spot healing, or dragging the adjustment brush around a 45 megapixel D850 image, and so on.
A card that when the next version of Lightroom comes out, STILL works. That as Adobe increases the number of things that benefit from AI and graphics acceleration, just WORKS.
It would be a nice bonus if whatever I use would work in Helicon Focus so it's actually faster with the graphics acceleration TURNED ON than leaving it off. HF is a graphics card memory hog and they recommend at least 8GB to be adequate, so HOPEFULLY anything that works optimally in LR and PS will also work well with Helicon.
I haven’t seen anything from Adobe on what will actually work "adequately" or "optimally" as opposed to "minimum requirements), which my current card, I believe, meets. If Adobe HAS put out information on this, can someone point me there?
It doesn’t have to be future proof for the next decade, but it would be nice if the GPU was still working optimally in 2 or 3 years.
Looking at Puget System’s testing of Photoshop and Lightroom, the differences between the onboard Intel 630 and the 2080, 3080, 3090 class of cards shows NOT what I think of as a significant difference in performance. A little improvement between the onboard Intel 630 and the $1300+ cards, but NOT anything that looked worthwhile. The “overall score” for the 630 was 969 and the 2080 Ti was 1092 – about 12% higher… I was expecting something in the 10 or 20 or even 50 TIMES faster, not 12%.
Directly from their text:
The GPU score is calculated based on the performance for the Rotate, Smart Sharpen, Field Blur, Tilt-Shift Blur, and Iris Blur tests - all of which are able to utilize the GPU to improve performance.
Unfortunately, even if we only look at these specific tests, there is still no meaningful difference between each of the discrete video cards. The only results that we may be outside the margin of error are the AMD Radeon Vega 64 and 5700XT, but even those cards are only ~5% slower than the fastest score which is going to be extremely difficult to notice in day-to-day work.
For Lightroom Classic, I think they used LR 2019, so things may be very different with Lightroom 10. The RTX 2080 was only about 8 – 9% faster than the RX 5700 XT and only about 5% faster than the onboard Intel 630 (I’m not sure HOW the onboard 630 was faster than anything, but it’s Puget Systems’ chart).
I DON’T see me going out and buying a Geforce RTX 3090 24 GB card or anything close to the $500 and up group of cards. And I have to believe the law of diminishing returns for Lightroom and Photoshop would kick in LONG BEFORE the $500 mark, and a far more REASONABLE card would work extremely well for the foreseeable future…
So, WHICH cards ARE that? And HOW MUCH has Lightroom 10 CHANGED the requirements for a graphics card?
