Develop module Forcing correct white balance on import

[mrfearless47]

Lightroom Version Number

14.0.1

Operating System

1. macOS 15 Sequoia

Shooting in raw using a Nikon Z9 (or Z8). Running Lightroom 14.0.1 under Sequoia 15.1. I’ve noticed that if a precise white balance (in Kelvin) is set in camera, Lightroom rarely respects the exact setting, often off by about 200° K, even ingesting with Camera Setting (in camera set to flat) and WB set to As Shot. Example. Set WB to 6250° K in camera,LRC reports 6050 ° K. If I had wanted 6050°K, I would have set it to that. I know I can change the WB in LRC, but why do I have to?

 

[clee01l]

Because you are shooting RAW. All of those in camera settings are for JPEGs produced by the camera processor. RAW is unprocessed as it comes from the camera. The JPEGS in the camera will have a fixed WB whereas the RAW is always adjustable.


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[Johan Elzenga]

Read this: https://community.adobe.com/t5/ligh...hot-differs-from-camera-setting/td-p/12800020

 

[JVMiddleEast]

Hi,

Besides the more technical answers provided above (which I don't question one second), I have a question for you as my reply: "Is the WB and tint that LRC displays similar to what you viewed in the camera or had in mind? Do the 200 K difference that LRC displays and that you selected in the camera make a noticeable difference, or are the results similar?"

I am asking because, in my view, it could be possible that LRC is adding or subtracting a few hundred Kelvin to get a result that is as close as possible to the result the combination of camera + wb selected would produce.

In other words, if WB selected in the camera produces a similar result as the same file now with LRC selected WB, it could be a deliberate correction in order to match the camera settings. If so, then I would argue that I wouldn't mind this at all.

If the end results are dramatically different, then its a different ballgame.

Jurry

 

[clee01l]

"Is the WB and tint that LRC displays similar to what you viewed in the camera or had in mind? Do the 200 K difference that LRC displays and that you selected in the camera make a noticeable difference, or are the results similar?"

When a RAW file is demosaic'd and converted to RGB, It has no WN tone or Noise corrections. These are applied by LrC whenthe RGB file is created just to give you a reasonable image to ponder. Auto Adjustments will determine the WB based on the best white point found in the whole image. "Daylight", "Cloudy", ... , "Flash" correspond to the generally accepted ˚Kelvin values for those conditions. "As Shot" should recover the temperature setting in the file metadata. But as Johan has explained this could result in differences between the number used in the camera and derived by Adobe.

 

[Philippe Coudé du Foresto]

How about creting your own RAW profile for your camera ?
The RAW profile is used by LrC to create the image you see in the develop module before any dévelopement settings. Lightroom provide several RAW profiles, some from Adobe, some simulating the profiles of your camera (Portrait, landscape, neutral, etc). They can be found at the top of the basic panel :

By cliquing on the drop-down list, you can select "Browse" to view all the RAW Profiles :

Using DNG_Profile_Editor (found here), you can even create your own RAW profile for your camera that better correspoond to what you want.

(Remember this is not a develop preset, it is just an indication for LrC to how create the image you see in the develop module before any develop settings)

 

[Johan Elzenga]

If you use a manual WB setting on your camera, and you want Lightroom to apply that exact same setting, then all you will have to do is create a preset with that setting and apply the preset on import. Alternatively you can add the WB setting to the preset you use as camera defaults.

 

[JVMiddleEast]

How about creting your own RAW profile for your camera ?
The RAW profile is used by LrC to create the image you see in the develop module before any dévelopement settings. Lightroom provide several RAW profiles, some from Adobe, some simulating the profiles of your camera (Portrait, landscape, neutral, etc). They can be found at the top of the basic panel :
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By cliquing on the drop-down list, you can select "Browse" to view all the RAW Profiles :
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Using DNG_Profile_Editor (found here), you can even create your own RAW profile for your camera that better correspoond to what you want.

(Remember this is not a develop preset, it is just an indication for LrC to how create the image you see in the develop module before any develop settings)

That’s a great idea.

 

[JVMiddleEast]

If you use a manual WB setting on your camera, and you want Lightroom to apply that exact same setting, then all you will have to do is create a preset with that setting and apply the preset on import. Alternatively you can add the WB setting to the preset you use as camera defaults.

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