DXO/NIK vs Topaz Photo/Gigapixel

Ron-Alexander

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Does anyone have strong feelings about these two products, either pro or con? I have one, will trial and probably buy the other, but I worry I may be throwing my money away.
 
Many years ago I used to use NIK plugins. The ownership has undergone many changes. Currently it is DXO. I'm not sure how much love' NIX gets from the current owners.

I have an On1 License and a Topaz Subscription. I haven't used On 1 in 2 years. Topaz I use almost daily . I can't say if NIK plugins are on par with Topaz Studio but I can heartily endorse the Topaz Studio As for Gigapixel, I have a subscription but for all of my resizing needs, I use the Topaz Wonder process or Occasionally Photoshop Generative Upscale. I will not be renewing my GigaPixel Subscription since I get all I need in Topaz Studio.
 
Many years ago I used to use NIK plugins. The ownership has undergone many changes. Currently it is DXO. I'm not sure how much love' NIX gets from the current owners.

I have an On1 License and a Topaz Subscription. I haven't used On 1 in 2 years. Topaz I use almost daily . I can't say if NIK plugins are on par with Topaz Studio but I can heartily endorse the Topaz Studio As for Gigapixel, I have a subscription but for all of my resizing needs, I use the Topaz Wonder process or Occasionally Photoshop Generative Upscale. I will not be renewing my GigaPixel Subscription since I get all I need in Topaz Studio.
DxO has totally re-wrote the software. I only just started looking at Topaz Photo. It's ok, but I am not really liking the way it works in terms of one step followed by another all in one program. I would rather do for instance denoice, save that, then do sharpness. If I later decided to change the denoice, I should be able to re-process the original (copy) save it and apply the sharpness adjustments to the new denoiced image. I have NO idea if Topaz can or can not do that and I also have no idea if DXO can do it but since DXO has many apps it stands a better chance. I have not even an hour of experience with Topaz as I have just got back into Photography after being too ill to do much of anything. As a wildlife photographer I was expecting to get a lot of use out of gigapixel but I will also now look at Topaz Wonder. I don;t know PS and no longer have it available after Adobe screwed me over with the price hike and al the extra charges that my bank had to get involved in. Apparently they were fraudulent even though the payee was Adobe.
 
I used to use DXO mostly to denoise. But man has that world changed. Now I use LrC to denoise my RAW files.

I still use version 6 of NIK. Mostly for B&W. I have used Topaz GP for years for all of my resizing needs as well.
 
I am not really liking the way it works in terms of one step followed by another all in one program. I would rather do for instance denoice, save that, then do sharpness. If I later decided to change the denoice, I should be able to re-process the original (copy) save it and apply the sharpness adjustments to the new denoiced image.
You can do as I do. Edit your single layer image as a "Smart Object in Photoshop". Call Topaz from within Photoshop. Each save and new call results in a new Photoshop layer. You can then save the Photoshop layers back to Lightroom which preserves the layers or flatten the image into a single layer and save.
While Lightroom does not edit layers, it does preserve them. So the you can return to Photo shop and see all of the layers. I always flatten the Photoshop image before saving since if I want to edit differently, I just re-edit the original in Lightroom as a new Photoshop object.

Like Ken, Lightroom DeNoise is more than sufficient for any image out of my camera.
 
You can do as I do. Edit your single layer image as a "Smart Object in Photoshop". Call Topaz from within Photoshop. Each save and new call results in a new Photoshop layer. You can then save the Photoshop layers back to Lightroom which preserves the layers or flatten the image into a single layer and save.
While Lightroom does not edit layers, it does preserve them. So the you can return to Photo shop and see all of the layers. I always flatten the Photoshop image before saving since if I want to edit differently, I just re-edit the original in Lightroom as a new Photoshop object.

Like Ken, Lightroom DeNoise is more than sufficient for any image out of my camera.
I never figured out how to use PS and when Adobe jerked me around on the Photographers plan I dropped it. I only tried denoise a bit in the last week or so and did notice that LRc was doing a fairly good job.
 
Many years ago I used to use NIK plugins. The ownership has undergone many changes. Currently it is DXO. I'm not sure how much love' NIX gets from the current owners.

I have an On1 License and a Topaz Subscription. I haven't used On 1 in 2 years. Topaz I use almost daily . I can't say if NIK plugins are on par with Topaz Studio but I can heartily endorse the Topaz Studio As for Gigapixel, I have a subscription but for all of my resizing needs, I use the Topaz Wonder process or Occasionally Photoshop Generative Upscale. I will not be renewing my GigaPixel Subscription since I get all I need in Topaz Studio.
Do you have the Topaz Studio Pro or regular. There is a huge price difference, all I pay is $136 for Photo and Gigapixel as a founding member.
 
Do you have the Topaz Studio Pro or regular. There is a huge price difference, all I pay is $136 for Photo and Gigapixel as a founding member.
I have the Personal Topaz Studio. Last November I paid $147 including tax.
 
I used to use DXO mostly to denoise. But man has that world changed. Now I use LrC to denoise my RAW files.

I still use version 6 of NIK. Mostly for B&W. I have used Topaz GP for years for all of my resizing needs as well.
Pretty much removed PureRaw the next day after Adobe Denoise AI came out. For my purposes I recently added a step. Just to add a little sprinkle to the cake I got ON1 NoNoise. Not for the NR but the Tack Sharp feature. It turned out both the NR and Tack Sharp are a nice compliment. I work the file in LrC as far as I can take which includes NR and Sharpening. If I think the file will benefit I send it to NoNoise which does not have to work that hard. One thing I like is it comes back as TIFF (like Topaz) and I still have a fully edited original RAW. After export I often delete the TIFF and colour code the RAW file so I know it went to a 3rd party.

NoNoise won 't save an OFF file like Topaz but I like the natural look. Mind you I'm comparing that to Topaz Sharpen AI which has not had an update since 2022 and never again will. NoNoise is relatively inexpensive.
 
Many years ago I used to use NIK plugins. The ownership has undergone many changes. Currently it is DXO. I'm not sure how much love' NIX gets from the current owners.

I have an On1 License and a Topaz Subscription. I haven't used On 1 in 2 years. Topaz I use almost daily . I can't say if NIK plugins are on par with Topaz Studio but I can heartily endorse the Topaz Studio As for Gigapixel, I have a subscription but for all of my resizing needs, I use the Topaz Wonder process or Occasionally Photoshop Generative Upscale. I will not be renewing my GigaPixel Subscription since I get all I need in Topaz Studio.
I just got an email from Topaz and it had a demo of Wonder 3. I agree, I don't need Gigapixel either. My onlne research tells me DXO denoise might be better in some cases and Topaz in others
You can do as I do. Edit your single layer image as a "Smart Object in Photoshop". Call Topaz from within Photoshop. Each save and new call results in a new Photoshop layer. You can then save the Photoshop layers back to Lightroom which preserves the layers or flatten the image into a single layer and save.
While Lightroom does not edit layers, it does preserve them. So the you can return to Photo shop and see all of the layers. I always flatten the Photoshop image before saving since if I want to edit differently, I just re-edit the original in Lightroom as a new Photoshop object.

Like Ken, Lightroom DeNoise is more than sufficient for any image out of my camera.
Wow, I just tried LrC Denoise on both a 6400 ISO and 12800 ISO. Now I feel confident that I can set my max auto ISO to 6400 and manual to 51,200. It does take a long time at the default settings, is this normal for a MacBook Pro M5?
 
I just got an email from Topaz and it had a demo of Wonder 3. I agree, I don't need Gigapixel either. My onlne research tells me DXO denoise might be better in some cases and Topaz in others

Wow, I just tried LrC Denoise on both a 6400 ISO and 12800 ISO. Now I feel confident that I can set my max auto ISO to 6400 and manual to 51,200. It does take a long time at the default settings, is this normal for a MacBook Pro M5?

“Normal” is relative to the number of CPU & GPU cores on your M chip. The M5 max chip is faster than the m5 pro which is faster than the M5 chip.

I have the older M2ultra chip which processes a 48mp Nikon file in about 8 sec. It is spec’d higher than the M5 chip and maybe even the M5 pro


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Wow, I just tried LrC Denoise on both a 6400 ISO and 12800 ISO. Now I feel confident that I can set my max auto ISO to 6400 and manual to 51,200. It does take a long time at the default settings, is this normal for a MacBook Pro M5?
It depends what you mean by "a long time" (and also how big the image files are in MegaPixels). My MBP M2 Max will denoise 45mp images in about 18 seconds (which will be reduced if an when Adobe/Apple get their act together with the Apple Neural Engine).
 
“Normal” is relative to the number of CPU & GPU cores on your M chip. The M5 max chip is faster than the m5 pro which is faster than the M5 chip.

I have the older M2ultra chip which processes a 48mp Nikon file in about 8 sec. It is spec’d higher than the M5 chip and maybe even the M5 pro


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I just bought this MBP and due to some 5 figure unexpected expenses this MBP will need to be it for at least 2 years, probably 3. AT 84, this may be my last. The saving grace is it is actually fairly rare that I will encounter conditions that need ISO greater than 400, but now it is nice to know I can rescue images as high as 6400 and more.
 
It depends what you mean by "a long time" (and also how big the image files are in MegaPixels). My MBP M2 Max will denoise 45mp images in about 18 seconds (which will be reduced if an when Adobe/Apple get their act together with the Apple Neural Engine).
I will time the next one I do, but that 18 secs feels right.
 
20,000 ISO with Adobe only

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LrC Super Resolution only. Johan explained how to get the most of it for web presentations.

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