Crop not preserved when editing in Photoshop... ?

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Heya. I'm working on re-processing my portfolio. I'll outline what I've done, and bold the issue.

1. Adjust tone for all images in lightroom
2. Export each image as a PSD (and immediately re-import)
3. perform high levels of retouching on each PSD (the originals), using "edit in ps3"
4. Use lightroom after re-import, to crop each image to taste
5. Realize there's something i need to do to every image; edit in ps3 again
6. back in lightroom, find that my careful crops have not been preserved.

Is there any way to maintain my crop decisions after re-importing to lightroom? It will suck if my crops get reset after every edit; it almost defeats the purpose of doing nondestructive editing.
I gather I could preserve a virtual copy of each image and re-sync the crops after re-import, but I'm certain to forget to do it several times. Also, wouldn't a virtual copy reset itself in the same way as the original if the underlying file is changed?

I'm hoping there's a hidden checkbox somewhere that I'm not seeing.

Thanks!
 
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step 2 seems pointless to be honest, Just select edit in CS3 and it will create a PSD or TIFF anyway (depending on your LR settings). When you select edit in CS3 which option are you choosing ?
 
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Ah, yeah, step 2 was from back when i wasn't re-importing, but it still lets me put the images on a different drive, where my edits live.

When I edit, I select "edit original"

Though I'm thinking that virtual copies might work, as I can retain crops in different aspect ratios, and then just export from the virtuals.
 
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I just followed your same workflow and wasn't able to replicate. I'm using Photoshop CS4, which I suppose (but am not sure why) could make the difference. Can you fill out your profile details with system specs to help us in troubleshooting?

I'm assuming nothing else is getting reset, correct?

I agree with sizzlingbadger that step 2 seems to be a bit redundant and might be the step that is causing the problems. If you need to keep originals on different drives, I'd probably recommend the Backup To option in the Import dialog or another of several workflow options to have a backup copy on one drive and a working copy on another.
 
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still doing it.
Step 2 is not redundant; I want all of my original photos on one drive and all of my edits on a separate drive. really easy to track that way. (and chase jarvis does the same, so i know i'm not being a wacko for preferring it)

to replicate: create a psd, apply a crop in lightroom, edit the psd in photoshop, save it, go back to lightroom, the crop has been undone.

I get around this by creating a cropped virtual copy of the photo; when i edit it,, i edit the original psd, and the virtual copy retains the crop. but i have double the number of images that I should, since I need a virtual copy for nearly every single dingle image i've processed.

edit: and i appear to have 2 accounts here, though am unable to log in to my other one
 
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You need to look at the small print when using 'Edit in Photoshop' on a previously created TIF/PSD. See the screenshot, you have three choices:

1. Edit a copy with Lightroom Adjustments. This will preserve your crop, but means you will have another copy to contend with which will get stacked with the original (which I understand you will now want to do). Also note that you would lose any layers in the previously created TIF/PSD.

2. Edit a copy. This will preserve the previously created layers, but will lose your Lightroom created crop, and again you have another copy to contend with.

3. Edit the original, which I gather is the option you are using. This will preserve layers, will not involve another copy, but you will lose any Lightroom adjustments, i.e. the crop.

That's the way Edit In works, so there's no magic switch or setting to avoid it. You may get around the problem either by going the VC route (though I haven't tested it), or alternatively if you think you are likely to be going back and forth between PS and Lightroom, try to do the adjustments, i.e. the crop, in Photoshop.
 

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@rcannonp

oh. my. god. that totally worked and I'm naming my firstborn after you. (he'll get made fun of a bit but it's worth it for the hassle you saved me).

seriously, i have hundreds of virtual copies that I can clean out now that I don't have to preserve each one for its crop value.
 
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