Colors in LR

[Robiri]

Hi everybody,
I'm having an hard time to calibrate the colors when I open the images in LR.
LR tends to give this yellow-red overcast to my images but now, since I`ve been shooting with a Canon 5d Mark II i think the problem is even worst.
Actually the problem is contained at lower ISO but at 8'' ISO or 1''' ISO the images have this heavy "orangy" overcast, and i have to WB them almost one by one. Yesterday I had to remove -29 in the red primary saturation slider to get a natural skin tone and the sync all the rest of the pictures.
This is an issue, by the way, specific of LR, because if I view the same images using the Canon Software (which I hate!) the colors are perfect.
I really LOVE Lightroom but this is too much work and is slowing down my work flow.
Any suggestion on how to get better color in LR.

System: camera 5dII (color set on Adobe)
LR 2.3
MAc OS 1'.5.6

 

[Denis Pagé]

Hi everybody,
I'm having an hard time to calibrate the colors when I open the images in LR.

One does not calibrate IN Lightroom. You have to calibrate your monitor systemwide first. Now, look at your histogram in Lightroom... are the parts where the bacic colors overlap yellowish or a neutral gray/white?

 

[Robiri]

I`m saying that if you have a perfectly calibrated monitor, and view the same images using different softwares LR tends to give more yellow -red over cast compare to the rest. This is a pretty common issue with all my colleagues that use CAnon 5d + Lightroom.
It`s an issue that in the past they try to fix when they introduced new profiles etc.
It`s a well known issue.....I just don`t have a solution for the problem yet.
I`m not trying to calibrate my images in lightroom, I `m try to get a consistent, realistic colors.
As for the Histogram, at the bottom is neutral Grey, and while you go up I have yellow, cyan,green red and Blue.

 

[Denis Pagé]

OK fine. So it is a camera calibration/preset problem. I know that Cannon profiles had problems before and Adobe included new default profiles for them in 2.3 and most found it better than before. But the 5DMkII is one of the latest ones and I am not sure it was included in the Beta profiles evaluation program.

There is some discussions about different problems with that model running in the forums now. Beside suggesting to use Adobe's profile maker/editor, I have no better clue to offer to you for now. Sorry

 

[Robiri]

Don`t you think it also has something to do with the way LR "reads" or interprets the files from a Canon camera?
With the same camera presets, viewing the same images Aperture has no issue of color overcast at all.
Isn`t this a limit of LR or simply something that they haven`t resolved yet?
This was a problem with the 5d too and as I mentioned before, a common problem for canon users. It can`t be that they all have camera/ presets issue or they all have the same camera/preset problem...or not?

Thanks for your help

R.

 

[Victoria Bampton]

Hi Roby

It's not a question of 'right or wrong', but each raw processor has it's own way of rendering the raw data, and which you like is down to personal taste. Have a read of this to understand that better: Why did Lightroom 'ruin' my photo?

To solve it, and match the Canon look that you like from Canon's own software, you're looking for are the new camera emulation presets which you'll find in the Calibration panel. If you find one you like, you can set it as default. They should be a very close match, and were produced in response to the requests of users who liked the manufacturer's own rendering.

 

[sizzlingbadger]

Don`t you think it also has something to do with the way LR "reads" or interprets the files from a Canon camera?
With the same camera presets, viewing the same images Aperture has no issue of color overcast at all.
Isn`t this a limit of LR or simply something that they haven`t resolved yet?
This was a problem with the 5d too and as I mentioned before, a common problem for canon users. It can`t be that they all have camera/ presets issue or they all have the same camera/preset problem...or not?
R.

Pretty much, that's what Denis said above.

 

[Robiri]

I don`t think that`s what Denis said at all.
Denis think that this is an issue caused by the camera presets.
I think that there`s nothing wrong with camera presets and I believe that Lightroom it`s simply not capable to generate images without yellow/red overcast.
And this is not a matter of taste neither, unless I`m discussing here with people that think that an image with a yellow/red overcast looks good!
I`m not talking about a warm tone or slightly saturated.....no, I`m talking about an OVERCAST.
I'm sure you know very well what I`m talking about, too many people have the same issue, but I guess this is not the right place where to talk about what LR CAN`T do.
:evil:

 

[Brad Snyder]

No, I'd say, we're first trying to rule out the most common problems that people come here with. We've had a great deal of discussion here, discussing Lr's modest performance in dealing with the 5d2 raws, but very little discussion concerning color fidelity. You may be correct in saying many people have the issue, but we're also aware of many happy users as well.

I'm not sure how to move the conversation forward from there, tho' ....

 

[Kiwigeoff]

Maybe you would like to post a screen shot of what you are seeing. I don't have the ability to guess what it looks like to you - thanks...

 

[Victoria Bampton]

Ok, time to chill.

I'm sure you know very well what I`m talking about, too many people have the same issue, but I guess this is not the right place where to talk about what LR CAN`T do.

Roby, this forum is indeed for the support of Lightroom and our main purpose is to help people get the best they can from the software as it stands today. We're not affiliated with Adobe, and whilst we have some Adobe Reps who drop in, no one here decides what is and isn't done with the program's design. Everyone here is volunteering their time to help, and working hard to keep this a very positive environment.

We're all aware of Lightroom's limitations, and we're among the first to shout about them. There have been colour issues in the past, no question, particularly with Canon reds - but since Adobe have created camera emulation profiles for the most popular cameras, and virtually handed over control of the color rendering to the user, via the DNG Profile Editor, we find very few users with cause for complaint now.

If you're one of the exceptions that still aren't happy with LR's rendering, then Geoff's right - we can't help any further without seeing pictures of the image you're getting, and the rendering you'd like to get.

Have you tried the camera emulation profiles which you will find in the Calibration panel? And if so, what did you think of them. They should be giving you a close match to the look of the Canon software, which you apparently prefer.

If those don't give you the result that you like, you have 2 options - use the DNG Profile Editor to create a profile you do like, or use other raw conversion software that gives the result you like.