Aperture 3

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I have always preferred the interface over LR and the new features look like a step in the right direction. I know Faces may not be useful for everyone but it does have a place even in a Pro App IMHO ( you don't have to use a feature if you don't like/need it). I really miss the integration of Aperture with my other apps also. I will be giving it a try over the next few days.

I have invested a lot of time in LR and love the results I'm getting though. With LR3 around the corner I will have to wait for that before making any decisions.

I'm watching the Aperture Videos today as I'm off sick with a bad stomach.

The Presets in Aperture can be applied additively or as replacement - nice touch !
 
Just installed Aperture 3 to start playing. First impressions are good. The RAW conversion has been modified also and it's very accurate colour-wise. I can also get the in-camera focus point information as an overlay which is one of the nice things I miss from Capture NX. Looks like Apple have been talking with Nikon or reversed engineered the RAW metadata.
 
Nice touch!

By the way, time to profile your monitor again as you did it 2 months, 11 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes, 3 seconds ago (before that screen capture)... ;)
 
My guess is they're using Nikon's SDK. They are reading the focus points, as you say, and also writing metadata directly into the files (so much for never touching your raw files). Over the years a few programs have used Nikon's SDK and, thanks to bugs and omissions in it, succeeded in corrupting NEF files, so I'd steer clear of that feature.
 
If reading/displaying the focus points imply writing to the NEF, then I agree with you John!
 
No, that's not what I meant. Reading the focus points and writing metadata back to the NEF are separate but both indicate that they're using the SDK. Writing to the NEF is what I would avoid. I'm not sure how they can square it with leaving your raw files untouched - but what's a complete U turn between friends?
 
I haven't seen any evidence that they write back to the NEF (except the date/time like LR) yet...
 
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Nice touch!

By the way, time to profile your monitor again as you did it 2 months, 11 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes, 3 seconds ago (before that screen capture)... ;)
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I do mine every 3 months, it doesn't seem to drift much...
 
The one thing I really missed in Aperture after trying LR was the CA correction (my 18-2'' is poor at wide angles) but they have added that now. All the adjustments can be brushed in/out even CA, Noise reduction etc.... I have to say that so far I'm very impressed.

The 'Auto' correction features aren't quite so good, they can go little too far but I was never a big user of them anyway.

The crop tool is a sight to behold after the LR abomination but then that has always been the way so nothing really new there, just a reminder for me ;)
 
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I haven't seen any evidence that they write back to the NEF (except the date/time like LR) yet...
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It's called "Write IPTC metadata to master"
 
John is correct, I have tested it and it does add IPTC data to the NEF but this is no different than LR storing IPTC / Adjustments in a DNG. It looks like only IPTC data is written to the master not the adjustments (as you would expect). The import features an auto backup destination like LR so this doesn't worry me too much.

This also works for images I have converted to DNG including focus point overlay etc.
 
Applying selective sharpening in full screen mode.... this is really nice !
 
By the way..... I'm not trying to 'diss' LR or convert everyone here with this post, I'm just updating you with stuff I have found to be pretty exciting in the new release - just so we are all clear :icon_lol:

If your not interested in Aperture feel free to ignore this thread, I'd hate to see it become a LR v Aperture or even worse Apple v Adobe bashing ground. I like both these products, they both have strengths and weaknesses. The reason I do it here and not in an Apple forum is because I value the opinions of people here far more.

I have already found a few bugs but I guess that is to be expected with .' release.
 
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The crop tool is a sight to behold after the LR abomination but then that has always been the way so nothing really new there, just a reminder for me ;)
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You prefer the crop tool in Aperture? The ability to crop & rotate at the same time and to do it away from the center of the image is probably the one thing I like most in Lightroom over Aperture.
 
The ability to use a crop tool without a mind of it's own is a wonderful way to work also. BTW.. you can keep the crop open while you adjust the tilt in Aperture but a lot of people don't realize this.
 
In LR you can crop & rotate at the same time but once you rotate & crop 'in', you can't do the same 'back out' unless it's continuous and you don't release the mouse, which I find a bit of a nuisance. Once the angle is set, i.e. bound by the pic's borders and you'e confirmed it by releasing the mouse button, adjusting the angle back the way you came leaves the crop in place. Often I have to start again.
 
Say that again Stas? I'm not quite following.
 
I know what you mean stasber, it's hard to describe. The crop tool is a bit odd in LR sometimes. I find that often I'll try to straighten an image after cropping and LR will reset the crop or it will just disappear completely or go to some indeterminate size crop that I never chose. I also struggle to get it change the aspect ratio to a portrait crop on a landscape image sometimes it just keeps flicking back to landscape.
 
Hi Victoria, go to the Crop tool and rotate your image 45 degrees anti-clockwise. The crop masks the image to it's borders as it rotates - sensibly so. Commit the rotation by letting of the mouse button.

Now rotate your image back to ' clockwise. The crop mask remains in it's current state and doesn't fill back out to the image's borders as you rotate it back.

This seems to be consistent actually, regardless of whichever way you choose to work with the Crop tool.

It's a real world issue for those who won't always get the angle perfect first time, e.g. with tricky verticals/angles etc.

Quite possible that I've missed a trick somewhere all this time.
 
A question - can anyone find an Aperture 3 equivalent to AutoSync? I thought the feature "Batch Apply Adjustments*" did it, but it seems not - it's also very, very slow.

John

*"Apply any available adjustments to any selected photos using the new Add Adjustment submenu in the Photos menu. Selecting the submenu opens the inspector (if closed) and displays the Adjustments pane."
 
I can't find an Auto Sync equivalent either John; the nearest thing being the Lift & Stamp tool on the left of the tool strip. It's quick & you can choose what to lift & stamp, but it's by no means a one click real time solution like Auto Sync.
 
Thanks for checking, but lift and stamp is no better than Lightroom's Sync and copy and paste adjustments. When I read about the batch feature, I thought they must have copied Auto Sync and find it hard to understand why they didn't - it's a real difference in productivity between the two programs.
 
There is no Auto Sync in Aperture as far as I can recall and I can't see it in A3 either. I haven't used it in LR as most of my photos require different develop settings. I tend to use the select and sync method to do multiple changes such as WB and then go back through to do my other adjustments. Its also one of those hidden features so I tend to forget about it. I see in the Beta they have put a small switch next to the sync button which is a good idea.
 
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