• Welcome to the Lightroom Queen Forums! We're a friendly bunch, so please feel free to register and join in the conversation. If you're not familiar with forums, you'll find step by step instructions on how to post your first thread under Help at the bottom of the page. You're also welcome to download our free Lightroom Quick Start eBooks and explore our other FAQ resources.
  • Are you using the cloud-based Lightroom apps for iOS, Android, Windows, Mac, and Web? Then you'll love my book, Adobe Lightroom - Edit on the Go!

    You'll learn how to use the Lightroom cloud ecosystem to organize, edit and share your photos. You'll also come to understand the thought processes used by professional photographers when they're editing their own photos, so you can transform your photos quickly and easily. And better still, the eBooks are updated for every release, so it's always up to date.
  • 25 June 2024 It's Lightroom update time again! See What’s New in Lightroom Classic 13.4, Mobile & Desktop (June 2024)? for the bug fixes and new lens profiles. Warning... this is a minor dot release and does NOT fix some of the bugs introduced in 13.3, so if you reverted to 13.2 due to bugs (e.g. sync issues), we'd suggest you stay there for now.

AI behavior in Lightroom Mobile

Minguy

Member
Joined
Oct 4, 2022
Messages
29
Lightroom Experience
Intermediate
Lightroom Version
Classic
Lightroom Version Number
9.4.2
Operating System
  1. Android
This pertains mainly to a new(?) AI behavior I'm discovering while using Lightroom Android v9.4.2 running on a Galaxy Tab S8, but it is a gripe about Lightroom in general, too.

I do most of my work on Classic, and I have lots of synced collections, but at the time of this experiment, I was using only the tablet and had sync deliberately PAUSED.

I moved a file I named, "Oppossum Eating".mp4 (it's adorable!) into the local tablet watchfolder I use for LR Mobile. Then I opened the app.

AGAIN: Sync was PAUSED at this time, so maybe that inhibits the import, I don't know, but regardless....

I did not see my just-imported file in the default "All Photos" view that showed up, (sorted by capture date), whereas normally (when syncing) I would.

Just for kicks, I then sorted "All Photos" by Import Date to refresh the display, and it still didn't return the Oppossum file.

Next, still not synced, I did a search for 'eating', hoping Lightroom would know that I just imported a file with that word in the filename at least.

I got a bunch of returns, none of which was the just-imported, local, Oppossum file, which clearly hadn't been imported after all, NOR were any other of the search results stored locally, but rather they were files from within my Lightroom Classic Catalog which happened to show people in close proximity to food.

I clicked on one of the eating pics that I recognized, whereupon a red warning popped up asking if I wanted to download some instance of this pic. I knew this was because I wasn't synced, and I clicked OK.

At this point I guess I had local access to file info, if there was any, and as you would expect, there was nothing in the metadata that had anything to do with "eating".

Bully for you, AI !!!, But no thanks.

So next I turned Sync back on, waited for the process to finish, and searched again for "eating".

At that point, the Oppossum pic was returned, along with all the other previously returned pics showing people eating.

So my observations and questions are these:

--Local import is not respected by "local" Lightroom. That really sucks when I want to edit a shoot on the go and sync it later at a time of my choosing; is there a right way to do this that I'm missing?

--I don't want AI to help me when I don't need it to; am I crazy for wanting to decide when AI is used for a given function?

--Finally, and I suppose my biggest gripe: I am a competent user, yet I am more confused than ever about what syncs with what and when; where can I find the pic I need even when I know damned well where it is; and why does there even need to be fifteen different instances of what Adobe calls "Lightroom" in the world. (Maybe not fifteen different Lightrooms, but more like twelve). Lightroom as it exists now seems to be like piling ever more bags of beans onto an erstwhile dependable donkey.

Thanks for bearing with my long-windedness and snark.

--
 
--Finally, and I suppose my biggest gripe: I am a competent user, yet I am more confused than ever about what syncs with what and when; where can I find the pic I need even when I know damned well where it is; and why does there even need to be fifteen different instances of what Adobe calls "Lightroom" in the world. (Maybe not fifteen different Lightrooms, but more like twelve). Lightroom as it exists now seems to be like piling ever more bags of beans onto an erstwhile dependable donkey.

Thanks for bearing with my long-windedness and snark.
I'll try to find the link but there is a list of what syncs between LrC and the Adobe Cloud and what does not.

Lightroom Classic syncs to the Adobe Cloud following the rules in the yet to be located link. Lightroom is a app that imports and sync to and from the Adobe Cloud. It is important to note that you never sync between a Lightroom instance and a Lightroom Classic catalog. You can have many mobile apps tha point to the image files stored in the Adobe Cloud. These or a smart Preview get downloaded to your device's Lightroom app. Lightroom for the Web (LrWeb) is a window to see what is stored in the Adobe Cloud.

Lightroom Local is separate from Lightroom that syncs to and from the Adobe Cloud. It is not well thought out and not integrated with the Adobe Cloud. If you import an image to Lightroom Local on one device, it will not be available on any other mobile version of Lightroom and will not be sent to the Adobe Cloud unless you specifically tell Lightroom to sync the local image.

Lightroom "Local" is like having all of the develop tools found in Lightroom but none of the image management tools in the Adobe Cloud products.
 
Back
Top