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As I digitize old photos I've been reviewing thousands and doing facial recognition.
There are a couple of things that keep happening to me, and wondering if they are all real, or in some cases if I may have some oddity in preferences or keyboard or such.
Oddity #1: Sort of suggested names
The sort order of suggested names seems more suggestion than rule. Here is a folder I just scanned, and have entered nothing. The setting (see bottom) is to sort by suggested names, but look at the names. Not only is the order wrong, but they are not grouped together. I think they are in image order. Now if I do something (exactly what seems to depend on the weather) it may snap to the right order, then later depart again.
Oddity #2: Search-as-Type Restarts after space
This is perhaps the most annoying of the features. Let's say I have a bunch of Tom's in my keywords, and I start typing (it doesn't matter if this on the loup-with-face-regions or the suggested name area:
The natural thing for me is to type a couple more characters, say it was Snyder I wanted, so I would hit space and S. But if I do, here's what happens:
It restarts the lookup again entirely. So instead of Tom Snyder, I create a new entry for Tom Sara Duke if I'm not really careful.
Oddity #3: Approving with corrections
So consider this one. The two shown are not the same person but pretend. If I click on the big check mark, what should happen? Note both faces are selected. I'll give you a hint -- it accepts them as two separate names as shown. Now however.....
Note I was unable to get back to the exact same situation even by doing a complete find again -- apparently there's a lot of randomness involved.
Here's a similar situation, except instead of checking the X, I just clicked on the name. I did not change the name, just clicked on it. Now if I hit enter both of these faces become Jack Hilliard.
Now I GET what it is doing, it is assuming any keystroke is corrective. I can argue it's even not a bad thing. But to me it's just too similar a process with completely opposite results. I've trained myself to work through it. But the problem comes in combination with oddity #1 -- the sorting. On a large gallery I will see 2 or 3 rows all of one person, the current person. I'll highlight them all and click the check box. But.... wonder of wonders there's a different name in the middle, becuase it's not in order. Suddenly my cousin becomes my unclue, or becomes a cheerleader from basketball photos.
Is it just me with these oddities? Is anyone using face recognition enough you have hit them? Perhaps the most important question is if it is not doing these weird things for you, I wonder if I can fix mine and how?
PS. Virtually none of the names are actually right, so hopefully no one minds me posting random person X's face with random name Y.
There are a couple of things that keep happening to me, and wondering if they are all real, or in some cases if I may have some oddity in preferences or keyboard or such.
Oddity #1: Sort of suggested names
The sort order of suggested names seems more suggestion than rule. Here is a folder I just scanned, and have entered nothing. The setting (see bottom) is to sort by suggested names, but look at the names. Not only is the order wrong, but they are not grouped together. I think they are in image order. Now if I do something (exactly what seems to depend on the weather) it may snap to the right order, then later depart again.
Oddity #2: Search-as-Type Restarts after space
This is perhaps the most annoying of the features. Let's say I have a bunch of Tom's in my keywords, and I start typing (it doesn't matter if this on the loup-with-face-regions or the suggested name area:
The natural thing for me is to type a couple more characters, say it was Snyder I wanted, so I would hit space and S. But if I do, here's what happens:
It restarts the lookup again entirely. So instead of Tom Snyder, I create a new entry for Tom Sara Duke if I'm not really careful.
Oddity #3: Approving with corrections
So consider this one. The two shown are not the same person but pretend. If I click on the big check mark, what should happen? Note both faces are selected. I'll give you a hint -- it accepts them as two separate names as shown. Now however.....
Note I was unable to get back to the exact same situation even by doing a complete find again -- apparently there's a lot of randomness involved.
Here's a similar situation, except instead of checking the X, I just clicked on the name. I did not change the name, just clicked on it. Now if I hit enter both of these faces become Jack Hilliard.
Now I GET what it is doing, it is assuming any keystroke is corrective. I can argue it's even not a bad thing. But to me it's just too similar a process with completely opposite results. I've trained myself to work through it. But the problem comes in combination with oddity #1 -- the sorting. On a large gallery I will see 2 or 3 rows all of one person, the current person. I'll highlight them all and click the check box. But.... wonder of wonders there's a different name in the middle, becuase it's not in order. Suddenly my cousin becomes my unclue, or becomes a cheerleader from basketball photos.
Is it just me with these oddities? Is anyone using face recognition enough you have hit them? Perhaps the most important question is if it is not doing these weird things for you, I wonder if I can fix mine and how?
PS. Virtually none of the names are actually right, so hopefully no one minds me posting random person X's face with random name Y.